Gooseneck or stick with bumper pull ?

[Rmart30]

Found what I think is a fair deal on a used 20+5 gooseneck rated at 12k ($2500) .. solid looking trailer , could use some paint and cosmetic work.

Never had a gooseneck before mainly due to not having enough truck to use it with but I picked up a mid 90's dodge/cummins farm truck a few months ago.
its now got me thinking about getting selling my 14k 18 ft bumper pull and going with the gooseneck trailer ... I should be able to get $2000 for my bumper pull.

My L4600 with FEL and bush hog fills the 18 ft'r bumper pull deck completely but it pulls great.... Would be nice to have a little more deck space to carry a disk or box blade with me if I ever needed too ..

Tractor only gets trailer maybe 5 or 6 times a year... most trips under 20 miles round trip, max is 100 mile round trip.

Think its worth the difference to go to the gooseneck ? Id gain more deck space, but loose some hauling capacity (12k vs my 14k)...

 

[7879fordman]

Hard for me to give advice since I have 15 trailers . But I like goosenecks better than bumper pulls .

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[newbury]

That's confusing - you apparently had enough truck for a 14K BP 18' and now are going down in weight to 12K but up in length to 20+5'.

My M4700 sure fills up my 16+2' Hudson


But it's a pain to try and park with my 20' truck on a narrow suburban street.

If you don't have "parking" problems I'd say go for it.

 

[ovrszd]

I also prefer GN trailers.

With that said, you are losing more than the 2K lb difference in the capacity of the trailers. The GN will be a heavier trailer empty. You may get close to it's capacity with your tractor load.

I'm not sure I've ever saw a 12K GN trailer. Does it have 6 lug wheels?? I always understood that 8 lug wheel axles were 7K each. Surely singles.

 

[juddspaintballs]

One benefit to keeping a bumper pull is that anyone with a 1 ton should be able to haul it in case your truck breaks down or you loan it out to a friend. My diesel Suburban could handle it in a pinch even. Not everyone has the hookups for a gooseneck in their truck.

 

[nirion]

I think the extra length would be nice, but I would get a good weight on your current tractor/loader/mower set up. You can weigh your current trailer empty and then with the tractor on it.

I have been torn with the gooseneck/bumper pull as I look for a trailer. My truck already has a gooseneck hitch, so that isn't a problem, I am just unsure if I want something that is more limited on what can pull it. A smaller vehicle could pull the bumper pull empty if needed (or to move a light weight but bulky item). I have pulled my friend's 32' gooseneck and his 18' bumper pull. The gooseneck is nicer with a load, in my opinion (but 32 is too long for me).

 

[Diamondpilot]

I would stick with the bumper pull. I've had a gooseneck and while they do have some advantages they have many disadvantages. The gooseneck you're looking at probably weighs four thousand pounds leaving you only 8000 for payload, is that enough? With a bumper pole you still have a bed to load items.

I'm personally started with a bumper pull trailer then went to a gooseneck and I am now back to a bumper pull.

Chris

 

[ovrszd]

Chris,

I started with bumper for years. I'm now hauling 11K lb load. I still have 2 bumper hitch light trailers. But for my heavy load, I'll always stay with the GN.

Funny how each person's experiences end with different opinions, results.

 

[powerstroke444e]

I like goosenecks but wouldn't have any use for one only rated for 12k is it car hauler??? If its a deck over with 6 k axles it would be easy to overload.

I guess it depends on what your doing I am down to one trailer and its a gooseneck as it will do everything I need although some times it is a pain to park.

 

[7879fordman]

I also prefer GN trailers.

With that said, you are losing more than the 2K lb difference in the capacity of the trailers. The GN will be a heavier trailer empty. You may get close to it's capacity with your tractor load.

I'm not sure I've ever saw a 12K GN trailer. Does it have 6 lug wheels?? I always understood that 8 lug wheel axles were 7K each. Surely singles.

No there's 6000# and 7000# and 8000# single tire 8 lug axles .

And ya not losing but 2000# .

And really a gooseneck is way safer than a 14000# payload on the back bumper that's plain dangers .

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[Diamondpilot]

Chris, I started with bumper for years. I'm now hauling 11K lb load. I still have 2 bumper hitch light trailers. But for my heavy load, I'll always stay with the GN. Funny how each person's experiences end with different opinions, results.

Yea. Pull 15,600# with a tri-axle bumper pull. It tracks great, does not cut into the corners, and handles like a dream behind my F350.

I have had as big as a 25,000# GN and a 24,000# BP.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

No there's 6000# and 7000# and 8000# single tire 8 lug axles . And ya not losing but 2000# . And really a gooseneck is way safer than a 14000# payload on the back bumper that's plain dangers . Sent from my iPhone 5 using TractorByNet

Really? 14,000# is dangerous as a BP. Lol

You need more truck if you believe that.

Chris

 

[7879fordman]

Really? 14,000# is dangerous as a BP. Lol

You need more truck if you believe that.

Chris

Have plenty of truck . And know its dangerous deal on a bumper pull most likely on a receiver hitch . On one little pin . A bumper pull is no where as stable as a gooseneck load . Really dangerous with that kind of weight .

Hope you stay away from me on the road .

Think I have plenty of truck and trailer if need be .










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[Rmart30]

That's confusing - you apparently had enough truck for a 14K BP 18' and now are going down in weight to 12K but up in length to 20+5'.

My M4700 sure fills up my 16+2' Hudson
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But it's a pain to try and park with my 20' truck on a narrow suburban street.

If you don't have "parking" problems I'd say go for it.

I pull the 14k with either my Kenworth which cant take a gooseneck hitch,or Chevy 2500 which Ive never wanted to put a gooseneck hitch on.

After digging a little deeper ... bare tractor is shown by kubota specs to be about 2700#. With FEL (1100#) and a bush hog (1000#) on it + loaded tires about 5200#. Add a box blade 500#, and a disk 800#. that's about 6500 # +/~ ... if trailer weighs 4k, that leaves a 8k payload capacity.
Tractor and implements at 6500 # should be fine for that.

My bumper pull is not a deckover and it limits me to a 5' bush hog. Anything wider wont fit between the fenders. My BB and disk are both 8 ft so they wont go on it at all when mounted to tractor. I have to set them on with the loader, then drive tractor on trailer.

With the gooseneck I could step up to a 6' cutter if I chose too and drive on with the disk or BB on the tractor.
The gooseneck over the bumper pull I have now would allow me to carry more implements with it.
Right now if I go to hunting lease 50 miles away.. I have to go one 100 mile round trip with cutter.. do the work, load all up, drive back drop off cutter and load up and return with disk to finish.
Both trailer setups I guess have their positive and negatives.
If the guy hasnt sold it by this weekend I think im going to get it and give it a try... I really don't have to sell the bumper pull. I can keep them both.

 

[7879fordman]

I pull the 14k with either my Kenworth which cant take a gooseneck hitch,or Chevy 2500 which Ive never wanted to put a gooseneck hitch on.

After digging a little deeper ... bare tractor is shown by kubota specs to be about 2700#. With FEL (1100#) and a bush hog (1000#) on it + loaded tires about 5200#. Add a box blade 500#, and a disk 800#. that's about 6500 # +/~ ... if trailer weighs 4k, that leaves a 8k payload capacity.
Tractor and implements at 6500 # should be fine for that.

My bumper pull is not a deckover and it limits me to a 5' bush hog. Anything wider wont fit between the fenders. My BB and disk are both 8 ft so they wont go on it at all when mounted to tractor. I have to set them on with the loader, then drive tractor on trailer.

With the gooseneck I could step up to a 6' cutter if I chose too and drive on with the disk or BB on the tractor.
The gooseneck over the bumper pull I have now would allow me to carry more implements with it.
Right now if I go to hunting lease 50 miles away.. I have to go one 100 mile round trip with cutter.. do the work, load all up, drive back drop off cutter and load up and return with disk to finish.
Both trailer setups I guess have their positive and negatives.
If the guy hasnt sold it by this weekend I think im going to get it and give it a try... I really don't have to sell the bumper pull. I can keep them both.

Your wrong on your payload . Because all the trailer weight is not all on the trailer axles . You have more that 8000# payload on the trailer .

If ya have room to keep them both and don't just have to sell the bumper pull . Buy the gooseneck . And go from there . You can always sell one down the road after you see what ya want to keep .

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[RDrancher]

I've been hauling a tractor, CTL's and mini-ex's with a 14k deckover GN for the last ten years. It's worked fine, but messing with a 20+5 isn't always the best. I got a 14k BP for cheap in the deal with my CTL purchase. For some odd reason, this particular trailer has a 12.5k hitch on it from the factory. As soon as I switch it to a lunette eye/pintle setup, redo the wheel bearings and get it painted up nice it'll be my everyday trailer. It pulls behind my 1 ton just as smooth as my GN does. The GN will probably only get used for hauling 30 foot culvert pipes and round bales.

To say that a 14k BP trailer is somehow dangerous is silly.

 

[7879fordman]

Y'all haven't seen all the wrecks from them heavy loads as I have .that where with bumper pull trailers .

But like said ya just stay away from me on the road . When ya see my front end coming up behind y'all . Pic posted in earlier post . Just stay in the slow lane so I can get around ya in the fast lane.

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[Reyer Farms]

Six in one hand, 1/2 a dozen in the other. I have no problem with either. I really do not have a preference as far as gooseneck or bumper pull. A well built trailer will do its job. I prefer a low trailer for equipment. The dual tandem trailer in the pic is nice but I would use the bumper pull for that tractor. There is no such thing as a perfect trailer, but it sounds as if you will only have the one. I would pick the one that is most flexible for all your needs.
Sometimes you don't get your preferences!

 

[LD1]

I prefer a gn for equipment. But make sure wherever you are towing to and from has adequate room for maneuvering and a wide approach for the drives. Gn's cut corners really short.

 

[MikePA]

Y'all haven't seen all the wrecks from them heavy loads as I have .that where with bumper pull trailers .

What was the cause of the wrecks? Did the 'one little pin' break? After all, only 'one little pin' holds the trailer to a big rig and every fifth wheel trailer.

Hauling safely starts with the right truck, with a safety minded driver, the right sized (not type) hitch, hauling the right trailer that's properly loaded.