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F350 vs competition
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I looked up the labor to R&I the engine for 2012 1 tons 4WD desiel automatic trucks, everything equal.
F-350 w/ cab removal 13.5hrs w/o cab removal 14.7hrs
Sivlerado 3500 17.1hrs.
Ram 3500 16.4hrs
mikehaugen
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You changed your mind? I thought you probably weren't going to buy another diesel?
Not to be a smarta$$ but it takes more than one video to make me choose a manufacturer. To me there is a lot more to a $60k investment than just being 21 seconds faster up a 7 mile hill climb that I would not very often see. I am not saying one truck is better than the other, just that a manufacturer-published video is not enough to sway me one way or the other, especially since you would have to get the 4.30 rearend to even have the advantage.
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The only thing my diesel trucks do is move big loads. They never move with less than 12,000# behind them.
I was convinced a few months back that a large gasser could do what I need but now not so much.
Like I said, it all will come down to job stability.
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Did you hear that ford is coming out with a heated tailgate. Yup... They are doing this so your hands don't get cold when you are pushing it. Lol
KenB2920
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Obviously to be used interchangeably, however its very funny. I remember back in the day them saying this about bumpers. It brought me back .... Lol
Interesting point on old 550 vs new 350....
Peacock
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That old F550 has much heavier axles, wheels/tires, frame and likely brakes.
mikehaugen
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In that case I guess a diesel is probably justified. :d
mikehaugen
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I keep hearing people say the half tons today are more truck than a 3/4 ten years ago. I don't buy it. I think the ratings may be getting close due to the engine/transmission advancements, but there's a lot more to it than power.
Peacock
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Until 1/2t trucks come with heavier springs and 8 lug, full floating axles they will not be as tough as 3/4t trucks from whenever.
They have the power, brakes, and transmissions now to pull whatever.
PsRumors
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My brother has a fleet of 8 trucks mixed with '10 and newer Ford 450s & 550s and Dodge 3500, 4500 and 5500. They pull close to the truck's rated capacities daily and none stand up. They have all had major mechanical failures prior to 70k miles.
While these trucks are marketed to work hard everyday their drive lines cannot take it, regardless of Dodge or Ford.
As for Chevy, he will not buy Chevy as the do not over a cab and chassis nor a 4500/5500.
While these trucks are marketed to work hard everyday their drive lines cannot take it, regardless of Dodge or Ford.
As for Chevy, he will not buy Chevy as the do not over a cab and chassis nor a 4500/5500.
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I agree Peacock. My stepson-in-law has a 2011 GMC 1/2 ton crew cab short bed 4wd. But whenever he wants to pull anything, he comes and gets my 2003 crew cab short bed 2500 HD with Duramax.
Ok, so that is only 8 years difference, not 10. But there is really no comparison between the two for towing capability. The ratings (HP and Towing) might be close, but you feel a whole lot more secure with the bigger axles, heavier frame, suspension, etc.
That's my opinion anyway......
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Yes I actually owned fords. Worked out as good as anything else. One thing I will say is diesel Cummings or anything else has troubles with fuel injections and it cost a wack of money to fix.
I usually owned newer vehicles but Right now I am driving a 1978 one ton crew cab, 454 Holley carb. Hard on fuel but this thing hauled a lot of stuff for the previous owner and some for me and it cost me the least to run. No payments, and nothing that cannot be fix fixed by a back yard guy, parts are cheep.
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I believe my 01 f250 would handle loads much better than my 78 f250. Even if it was like new. As for working on them in a driveway... both are simple, but require different knowledge.
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I like Ford, how much do you think a moderately decked out 2015 dually in good condition w 100K miles will cost in 2025?
When maybe I could afford it
When maybe I could afford it
mikehaugen
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I like Ford, how much do you think a moderately decked out 2015 dually in good condition w 100K miles will cost in 2025?
When maybe I could afford it
probably more than a new one does now. :laughing:
fordmantpw
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I like Ford, how much do you think a moderately decked out 2015 dually in good condition w 100K miles will cost in 2025?
When maybe I could afford it
$33,000
Fordman1981
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The big question I have is did the ram have the 68rfe or the Aisin in the test? The Aisin has an advantage for pulling I bet ford used the 68rfe equipped ram. Plus the Aisin equipped ram has 50 ftlbs more torque.
The Aisin has the following gears
1st 3.750
2nd 2.000
3rd 1.340
4th 1.000
5th .770
6th .630
The 68rfe has
1st 3.23
2nd 1.84
3rd 1.41
4th 1.00
5th .82
6th .63
