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IslandTractor said:
Actually I hadn't even visited the island. I had just sailed around it. The ad had a photo and with the wonders of Googlemaps or whatever the predecessor was I could see the aerial views and setting well enough. I arranged to drive down to see it one morning by catching the 6am ferry over and the 8:30 ferry back. I was smitten. Tried to engage SWMBO by phone but she was in Atlanta and did not take me seriously apparently. I was pretty sure she would like it and as I said there aren't many places that actually make it to the market. I grabbed it and figured she would eventually understand. She's forgiven me for that but not for ten thousand other trespasses.

I, like Beppington, am enamored by your story. Specifically the island itself. I found myself wide wake last night, spent till the wee hours this morn researching the area.

Oh, I would never consider making a purchase, but I could be interested in renting a vacation retreat!!

It sounds like things have really changed over the years. The island used to have daily milk delivery from Farnworth Farm (vegetables delivered every other day when in season). The casino is no longer, and it sounded like there used to be "one of most things" on the island (as far as shopping goes).

I like how each "area of houses" are referred to as colonies. There is a lighthouse on the island. Sunken ships abound, including the one just off the T wharf. A hurricane in the '40's removed a large number of houses, most never rebuilt. And SOMEONE needs to finish the gazebo at the farm!!

It looks to be a very peaceful and relaxing haven in the midst of the NE corridor. Very Nice!!
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #122  
When I bought my DK40 it was only about $1500 or so more than the DK35, both with loaders.

I think the real difference is that the DK35 has smaller axles and tires but almost the same HP (38 vs 41) appears to be a smaller tractor as it is lower to the ground and a bit lighter. Frankly it is certainly as good and probably better for mowing and non loader intensive CUT work. It also is more directly a size and performance match for the Kubota L3940 and L3540 but is significantly less money. The DK40 and up are size wise bigger than the Grand Ls so some customers might not want that. The DK40 and above are sized like the MX Kubota line with Grand L deluxe features. Also, dealers probably had an easier time upselling from the CK30/35 to the DK35 than all the way to the DK40.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #123  
Island Tractor,

Thanks for sharing the photos and your place indeed is unique and beautiful in this day and age. I really enjoyed coming to RI when we lived in SE Ma in the late 70s and early 80s.

Just a note about the ticks - do you use permethrin spray for mosquitos and ticks? I use 36% mix here in NH (gallon lasts 2 yrs) with my Stihl BP sprayer and washing clothes with a bit of it keeps the ticks off for months.

And for Kiotiken this has been a most interesting thread with happy ending and a new beginning for you as well.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #124  
I, like Beppington, am enamored by your story. Specifically the island itself. I found myself wide wake last night, spent till the wee hours this morn researching the area.

Oh, I would never consider making a purchase, but I could be interested in renting a vacation retreat!!

It sounds like things have really changed over the years. The island used to have daily milk delivery from Farnworth Farm (vegetables delivered every other day when in season). The casino is no longer, and it sounded like there used to be "one of most things" on the island (as far as shopping goes).

I like how each "area of houses" are referred to as colonies. There is a lighthouse on the island. Sunken ships abound, including the one just off the T wharf. A hurricane in the '40's removed a large number of houses, most never rebuilt. And SOMEONE needs to finish the gazebo at the farm!!

It looks to be a very peaceful and relaxing haven in the midst of the NE corridor. Very Nice!!

I have been working for several years to recover parts of Farnworth Farm that have been completely overgrown and to remove debris from it's days as the island motor vehicle graveyard. The farm was fully functional into the 1960s but then was allowed to go to seed. Many of the photos I've posted over the years here are of my clearing efforts there. It's about a half mile from my house and is now run by the conservancy organization that also owns all the land between my house and the bay.

The island culture was formed in many ways by the combination of isolation (the car ferry is new, the old ferry could only take one car at a time and only if the tide was right) and yet also proximity to civilization (Boston is 70 miles north). It has been viable as a place for retired couples only since the car ferry service started so before that it was pretty much only a hard scrabble group of year round residents (Swamp Yankee is our version of Redneck:laughing:) and then the summer residents who as you noted tend to define themselves in "colonies" of about twenty homes or so. Until the 1990's cars did not need to be registered and made a one way trip to the island and were kept running until retired to the "parts dept" at the farm. Only one road is paved and that has been patched so many times it looks more like a quilt than road. Fixing broken things to "Prudence Island standard" is our code for baling wire and duct tape fixes that are the norm and everyone pitches in to figure out sometimes bizarre solutions for problems using only materials on hand. The Apollo 13 astronauts (Houston, we have a problem) would have had good basic training by growing up on Prudence.

The sense of isolation and community also bond folks together in interesting ways. It is considered impolite not to wave at someone, driver or pedestrian that you pass on the road or walking by. After a week on the island I have to stop myself from waving at people when I get back on the mainland and confusing them. The island rules also start the moment you step on the ferry and it is fun to watch harried people just beam the moment they board on a Friday night. The ferry also serves as a practical barrier to people coming and going so you don't spend any time on weekends doing errands or shopping (just fixing stuff). The ferry schedule also makes it very hard for someone to get on the island if they live for example in NYC. Other areas of Rhode Island are popular with NYC residents as they just drive up 95 after work and get to their vacation homes late Friday evening. If you cannot make it to the ferry dock by 7:30 you ain't gonna be on Prudence Island that night. Boston is about as far away as one could be working on a Friday and get to the ferry in time. However Bostonians are traditionally more oriented towards Cape Cod, Maine and the mountains so few come to RI. The summer weekend population on Prudence is therefore mostly from within a 70 mile radius in RI and southeastern MA and we don't have any jetsetters like Martha's Vineyard or Nantucket.

As noted earlier one of the more charming contrasts to modern American life is how intergenerational all activities are and how the island kids do not segregate themselves by age. At Halloween the community has a party for all ages and then all the kids from high school to preschool hop on the school bus (yes there is a one room school house) and go trick or treating as a group with the older kids watching out for the younger ones. Island kids are sensitive to each others potential embarrassment about playing with younger kids when they bring non island visitors for a weekend. It is not a problem if one kid with a visiting friend does not join the gang but the non island visitor kids almost always are completely engaged with the local horde by the end of the first day. The kids also get to have a 1950's experience where parents are not worried about them when they cruise the neighborhood. If they are not back for lunch the assumption is they liked the menu at someone else's house better. If you are looking for your kid you just ask any kid where the horde might be found. One might worry about the coastline except that the older kids will not tolerate the younger ones heading off alone and there is almost always some adult sitting down at the swimming area anyways.

One final tidbit. Prudence was first owned by Roger Williams, the founder of RI and a figure who is now widely recognized as crucial to the American notion that church and state are separated. Government in early Massachusetts was a fanatical theocracy. The Pilgrims were essentially Ayatollahs and religious extremists. Williams was a trained minister but had more liberal ideas about religious tolerance. He was driven out of Massachusetts within a few years of his arrival from England and went south to Rhode Island where he lived with the native population. He was helpful to the Sachum (chief) who gave him Prudence Island (used previously as a summer fishing and hunting camp by the local Indians). Williams eventually returned to England to get a charter for what is now Rhode Island from the King and specifically established the new colony to allow religious freedom. The religious tolerance of RI was in marked contrast to MA or CT so persecuted groups of colonists (Catholics, Jews, Quakers, more liberal Protestants) found refuge there and made it home. RI is the home of the oldest synagogue and Quaker meeting house in the US as well as one of the early Congregationalist and Baptist religious communities. Several of our neighbors are Roger Williams decendents.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #125  
^ Fascinating stuff !

Thanks for sharing and the allowance of a temporary hi-jack.

Where does your electricity come from on the island? I can't spot a power plant of any kind from the google aerial images.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #126  
^ Fascinating stuff !

Thanks for sharing and the allowance of a temporary hi-jack.

Where does your electricity come from on the island? I can't spot a power plant of any kind from the google aerial images.

Portsmouth which is the town we are administratively a part of and is about a mile across the east passage. We also have telephone including lower speed DSL via a submarine cable from there.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #128  
Islandtractor

Thanks for humoring me and my insomnia!!

OP, pardon the hijack! Just too interesting to miss this opportunity.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #129  
Now you guys have me looking for bright orange on Bing maps. Looks like a neat place to live.
 
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I would assume some residents use their own boat to cross to the mainland?

Funny how isolated the island seems to be when it's barely over 1 mile from the island to the mainland shore.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #131  
Now you guys have me looking for bright orange on Bing maps. Looks like a neat place to live.

I don't see any orange, but am guessing this is he:

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beppington said:
I don't see any orange, but am guessing this is he:

<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=265728"/>

No, that is the Bacon farm in the central part of the island. I'm in the west coast about half a mile or so to the southwest of the Bacon place.

No orange to see on the aerial photos as the tractor lives in the barn. The road running east west across the middle of the island is Broadway (love the pretense). If you follow the road to the west side, we are the first house/barn/shed on the left at the intersection about 300 yards from the shore. Big field to the west of our house which is now mostly clear other than blueberry bushes but was overgrown with trash trees and briar before TBN.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #133  
Congratulations on your deal Kiotiken! Its been an enjoyable and very interesting read.And I have enjoyed the packs cheering and advice! It always helps to hear support from the dugout and the bench of littermates. And Island Tractor I also enjoyed reading all of your posts! Very interesting to learn about your island and its history.Too cool for words. We will forgive the hijacking,unintentional and a good read. This thread has been like a good book,I had to finish before getting on my Kioti and mowing. Have a great weekend guys,and give your wives a kiss.God blessed us with good ones it sounds like. Earl
 
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KubotainNH said:
Now you guys have me looking for bright orange on Bing maps. Looks like a neat place to live.

I must admit that I did the same thing (sorta felt like a stalker). ;)
 
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Depmandog said:
I must admit that I did the same thing (sorta felt like a stalker). ;)

Hey, I did it too before calling the realtor. Modern life. Aliens have been watching all out little orange tractors running around for years.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #136  
Hey, I did it too before calling the realtor. Modern life. Aliens have been watching all out little orange tractors running around for years.

Awesome story Ed, thanks. You really can write.
 
/ Broken again, loosing faith #137  
Hey, I did it too before calling the realtor. Modern life. Aliens have been watching all out little orange tractors running around for years.

More questions! :D

Do you ever just go for a drive around the island? Or have you seen it all enough times now that it's no longer interesting (ie been there, done that)?

Are the roads paved?

I see a few ponds - Are any of them fresh water?

I see a 1/2 mile long runway closer to the north end, near Potter Cove. Is that govt owned? What are the 2 stone bldgs near it that overlook Potter Cove? Are they still used for anything?
 
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More questions! :D

Do you ever just go for a drive around the island? Or have you seen it all enough times now that it's no longer interesting (ie been there, done that)?

Are the roads paved?

I see a few ponds - Are any of them fresh water?

I see a 1/2 mile long runway closer to the north end, near Potter Cove. Is that govt owned? What are the 2 stone bldgs near it that overlook Potter Cove? Are they still used for anything?

I drive around the island regularly but not every week. Always give guests a tour. The old Navy base is quite a kick. The southern third of the island was an ammo dump during WWII and the old bunkers are still there though overgrown with brush and trees. All sorts of little roads going from one to the other. Big T dock down at the southern tip which is where the ships would unload and reload the ammo. The whole former Navy base is a state park (except for a small marine research station) now but because it is hard to get to (and due to all the Lyme disease warning posters) it is used very little except for fishing off the dock.

There are a few fresh water ponds but most of the water you see in aerial photos are tidal ponds. Some are used as oyster hatcheries. The fresh water ponds were traditionally used to make ice. The farmers would cut the ice blocks in the winter and store them under hay insulation for use in summer.

At the north end of the island is another conservation area but just south of that is Potter's Cove which is a very popular anchorage. Quite a few boaters have moorings there even though they never come on to the island. They sail or power over for the weekend and just hang on the hook. There is a farm, old landing strip and a very weird stone mansion up there too. The mansion is partly burned but it was huge and never occupied. Some guy about a hundred years ago decided to build it as a wedding present for his wife as I recall but she didn't like the idea of being on a island so it was never lived in. It was the size of some of the Newport mansions and bigger by far than anything built before or after on Prudence. The farm just to the west of Potter's Cove is active with horses and cattle. They produce cheese and beef. The old landing strip is private but hasn't been used since the only regular pilot (an island resident) crashed into the water while trying to land in fog a couple decades ago. There are several island residents who commute via private boat from Potter's cove.

There are two active churches today. One multi Protestant and one Catholic. There was at one time an Episcopalian church too but that is now a residence. The old "casino" which was not exactly a gambling hall but rather a social hall with bowling alley burned some decades ago. That was just a few hundred feet from my home.

Prudence has a one room school house that has been in operation since I don't know when but I know at least one 85yo Prudence resident who when to school there before going off to Brown University. Currently I think they have one kid in kindergarten, one second or third grader, one kid about 12 yo and a high school junior. Most older kids elect to take the ferry back and forth to the mainland for regular high school but the school on the island is extremely popular with the kids who do stay. Pretty much like home schooling except they are together in a traditional school house. The students even put out a web based newspaper of island news.

I've posted a few photos of the ferry, lighthouse, old photo of school house but it looks essentially the same today, and a photo of the long gone casino. There are also a bunch of photos of our July 4th parade. I need to explain the parade a bit. The oldest July 4th parade in the country is held in Bristol RI which is where our ferry lands. Partly because the ferry gets shut down during the parade and partly because folks would rather stay home than to go over to Bristol, there has been a tradition of a Prudence Parade at the same time. The Bristol parade is serious and has military bands etc as well as the crew of a Navy frigate and is quite the regional event. Ours is not so serious but gets great participation from all the islanders. The parade starts with our one island cop leading in his squad car siren blaring followed by the volunteer fire dept in all their hand me down fire trucks and then decorated vehicles from pickups to lawnmowers. Kids ride in the dolled up vehicles and throw candy and water balloons at the on lookers. A good time is had by all.
 

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#139  
Well, I stopped by my dealers this weekend (this was a long weekend here) to take a look at the new tractor. WOOOOOWWWW. I thought the specs and pictures make the CK and DK series look pretty close in size, at least to me. NOPE, they're not. I would NEVER have bought this tractor without having moved through the CK30 first, I would have taken one look and had one word for it, overkill. Having maxed out the CK30 and wanting a little more, I'm OK with moving up to the DK, but it's going to take some time to get used to the extra size.

Now for the cab. Well, it's VERY VERY VERY nice!!!!! Firing up the 4 cylinder engine, which I can tell is going to make a huge difference, it is already significantly quieter than my CK cab. Closing the door seals out so much more noise. I can see listening to the radio peacefully without having to turn the radio up to where my ears hurt (it still has 4" speakers, I don't understand why they can't put better ones in). The rest of the cab feels very much like the fit and finish you'd find in a car. My Kioti cab was nice, but nothing like this.

I love the two pedal hst set up and I'm used to it from my JD955, I never really did adjust to the rocker pedal in the CK30, even now I'll find myself pushing the brake wondering why it won't move back! I also love that the brakes are on the left side and they can easily be separated. I used steering brakes all the time with my 955 clearing and flooding my rink in the winter, and it just wasn't possible with the CK30 set up.

The CK30 was a luxury tractor when comparing it to others in the same hp and $ range, the DK addresses all of the issues I had with the CK series and has many upgrades on top of that. In reality, the CK is a much better fit for my property physically, but I look forward to maxing out what the DK can do.
 
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No, kiotiken, you cannot live in the cab 24/7 no matter how nice it is.
 

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