Our "new" 186D

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buckstar25

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Yanmar 186D
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So there she is, found this kind of by accident because I was out and about. Got the number and called. After a long and painful conversation with the owner...painful on his part because he just did not want to get rid of the tractor....I gave my dad a call and told him he needed to check it out the rest is history. We pick it up Saturday.

14hrs on it, I believe he said it is a 1992 model came with the blade shown, dump trailer, roller and hopper spreader.

I would like to hear what the people familiar with these tractors think the price should have been. And any opinions on the unit itself, it is not a grey market tractor I know that but any other advice or comments will be greatly appreciated!
 
/ Our "new" 186D #2  
If it only has fourteen hours on it, it IS new! The 186 is an excellent machine, I really like mine. The Powershift is a significant improvement over a standard gear driven machine, and begins to approach a hydrostatic transmission in usability, while not suffering from as much mechanical inefficiency.
 
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Yeah I couldn't believe the low hours either. He had a Steiner for majority of his work around the farm and he said the kids liked to ride on it so he kept it. He used it for finish mowing with a 6' mower.

About the power shift, do I need to use the clutch when shifting? He said he always did but thought it wasn't needed? Would using the clutch help prolong the life of the transmission?

I loved the wide tire kit, he didn't like how the Ag tires would tear up his pasture if he hit a soft spot. I was kind of worried about using the turf tires around the property but he did pretty much everything we will be doing and said the wider tires work great....
 
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From what I understand the 186 was a 1979-1981 model. If the powershift lever is on the dash it is a later year, on the "hump" early.

You will love the powershift, you do not need to use the clutch to shift, but it does take a little getting used to it.

I wish I had the turf tires on mine, an option according to the manual.
 
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The shift lever moved up to the dash about 1983. I thought production ended in 1986 when the the similar 187 was introduced, but it's reasonable that this 186 didn't sell new until a few years later.

At 14 hours it's worth at least as much as it was new. (If you advertise it to a national audience on Ebay and wait for the right buyer). Did he give you the original paperwork? If it came with a second set of tires he may have paid over $8k.

I wish I could find a YM186D that didn't look like it's in the second half of its life.
 
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re using the clutch: I think they are designed for a full power clutchless shift *running in a rice paddy* where you have some tire slip. Dealers have posted here that doing this on asphalt can destroy parts.

I clutch, except for gentle shifts such as coasting downhill etc. Or rarely when it is imperative to maintain rolling inertia and clutching would stall the tractor. (My place is nearly all slopes, even the barn entrance).

It seems to me that a clutch disc is the cheapest thing to wear out and replace.
 
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Thanks for the info guys! He said he paid a lot more than 8,000.00 for it new. So by looking at the pictures would you say the condition is??? I have seen a few with a lot more hours go for what my dad paid for it. 5,000.00 for everything mentioned. Thoughts??
 
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I back off the foot throttle & shift. I never use the clutch.
 
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He said he paid a lot more than 8,000.00 for it new. .... 5,000.00 for everything mentioned. Thoughts??
You got it for a good private-party price. A dealer wouldn't have paid more but an ebay prospect might have, if the seller went to some effort to market it effectively.

That is a genuine classic. Baby it, park it indoors, and it will be worth what you paid for many years.


Silvertramp - I rarely use the foot throttle since this ground is so rough - that just makes me lurch. I do generally back off the hand throttle to catch the next gear at the right rpm.
 
/ Our "new" 186D #10  
Silvertramp - I rarely use the foot throttle since this ground is so rough - that just makes me lurch. I do generally back off the hand throttle to catch the next gear at the right rpm.[/QUOTE]

It's rough & tight here too. I use my foot because I'm rarely going the same speed for long. Different ways of going at similar situations I guess.
 
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Are there any "special" needs we should take into consideration; a far as working the unit? He said it has all the power he needed and used it to pull shrubs and haul loads of gravel. A friend has used the a 186 with post hole digger and said it was amazingly powerful....

We have 52 acres that we use for hunting an have recently gotten into the forest stewardship program so the tractor will be used for maintains the property, hauling firewood, and brush hogging. We are pretty excited to see how the tractor will do because we have a 1.5 acre piece that we will be putting a foodplot in. Probably going to rent a rototiller for it.
 
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Another question I have is, the only thing we have to go off of is his word. So far he has been off a little on the weight, price he paid for the tractor. I read that the hour meter only goes up to 999. Is there a way to find out for sure if it hasn't turned 1,014 hrs????

He seemed like an honest guy and obviously took very good care of the tractor but part of me still can't get over the fact it only has 14hrs on it! 😁
 
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14 hours is pretty unlikely. But even if it has 1014 or 2014 it still has a lifetime of use left in it. You can get a rough idea of when it was manufactured by the date stamp in the rear wheels. That is a good looking 186d. You won't believe how useful those little tractors can be.

Chris
 
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Another question I have is, the only thing we have to go off of is his word. So far he has been off a little on the weight, price he paid for the tractor. I read that the hour meter only goes up to 999. Is there a way to find out for sure if it hasn't turned 1,014 hrs????

He seemed like an honest guy and obviously took very good care of the tractor but part of me still can't get over the fact it only has 14hrs on it! ��

If he used it for 1000 hours and it still looks like that, it has been so babied the hours don't matter anyway. There is no way to check the hours aside from the meter. It is a mechanical connection from the engine to the tachometer. While it is conceivable someone would unhook the tach to prevent the hour meter from accruing time, it doesn't seem like he had any incentive to do that. The machine looks brand new.

One can infer the amount (or maybe more accurately, the type and severity of use) by looking at the pedals, floorboards, seat, and other parts of the machine. Worn paint or tread plates show lots of use, and probably in a gritty environment.

Missing battery hold down plates are one of my indicators, too: missing or improvised forms of this indicates, to me, someone who had difficulty affording a new battery, and instead cobbled something out of leftovers. While the tractor doesn't care what battery it has, I am always suspicious that a person who cannot buy a $50 battery before losing the battery hold down may not
have been diligent about regular oil and filter changes or other maintenance.

I don't know what you mean by being off on the weight of the thing, but consider giving him a pass on that one. The 186D is a dense block of a compact tractor. I always think mine would be fairly light for some reason, even though I know better. I've never weighed it, but it must weigh around 2000 lbs without me on it: The published weight for the tractor alone is 1538 lbs per Yanmar, and estimating 250 lbs of water in the tires (all 4 are filled), another 175lbs of wheel weights and another 100 lbs for the cultivators, it's over 2000 lbs before the operator is on or the front suitcase weights are added, piling another 250 lbs on.

It is funny to watch a guy who is strong think he can lift the front of it "and just slide it over a bit" on the trailer. :laughing: The engine alone is 250 lbs or so, the suitcase weights are another 250, the axle and tires are at least 250 lbs again. It is pretty tough to dead-lift 800 lbs while hunched over. In other words, although it is the size of an ATV, don't put a couple cinch straps on the tractor and call it good. Those work great for motorcycles, but
are not anywhere near strong enough for these tractors.

I don't think there are any tricks really or things to look out for. The three point lift is very strong and speedy. That makes it tougher to carefully regulate for precise grading. The dipstick for the transmission took me forever to find, since a cultivator hose for mine ran near it. It is under the seat on the left side. Change the oil and filters and start doubling the hours on your new machine!
 
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Just for reference there wouldn't be any paint worn off the wear points from use at 14 hours, like the grab handles or the foot rests or the pedals.

It appears to have had something slung underneath at one time.

Chris
 
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Very good advice thanks a ton! He said that the tractor alone weighed 4,000 lbs is where I found he was off. Not a big deal but definitely got the mind wandering, but I will post more pics Saturday when we get it to his house. As far as the wear you talked about it is almost non existent. Thanks again for all the advice i really appreciate it!!
 
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There is a ton of information here in the past Yanmar threads. Well worth some reading time. I think the sales brochure is posted somewhere which includes specs. You can still get the manuals from one of the dealers or off Ebay.

Chris
 
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They are heavy, but not 4000 lbs heavy, even with the attachments you listed. :laughing:

I have a copy of the original brochures here provided by rScotty.
 
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One more thing that would verify 14 hours: on the tires, there should still be some mold flash or rubber pins sticking up (mold vents) in the tread. Those have lasted at least 40+ hours beyond my purchase date on both tractors.

My YM186D has substantial wear to the chrome shift lever where it goes into the 'gate' on the instrument panel. Visible wear there might prove higher hours.
 
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Wow......nice looking 186D! Great little tractor.....I really like mine. Hard to believe only 14 hrs.....but than again.....my mother-in-laws 1985 Honda Civic has 42K on it. Enjoy the tractor! :thumbsup:
 

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