Torch cart with blast panel?

QRTRHRS · Apr 2, 2012

So, the other day I see this new gas tank cart at work in the shipping recieving area with a large panel to seperate the two bottles. Plant engineer happened to walk over to check it out.

He explained that the panel was to isolate the two tanks should something go wrong and that all business's needed to upgrade. This was the least expensive one they could find at $750!

I replied, great! That means that your going to put the old cart on the in-house surplus auction? (The company puts excess items up for sealed bids.) Just so happens, I need a good cart and used suits me just fine.

Maybe the new requirement is a good idea but it is yet one more hoop for a business to jump through. Whatever, the auction area is getting full so I expect to see the notice any day now. Now, let's see, what to bid...

monckywrench · Apr 2, 2012

Overpriced and easy to duplicate if you want to mod your own cart.

I'd be all over old carts. They are also quite nice for inert gases which of course don't need the panel.

QRTRHRS · Apr 2, 2012

monckywrench said:
Overpriced and easy to duplicate if you want to mod your own cart.

I'd be all over old carts. They are also quite nice for inert gases which of course don't need the panel.

Maybe overpriced but for a business, building your own whatever however innoculous raises liability issues.

I don't know that I have ever heard of tank issues happening on the cart. I have worked with plenty of bottled gases that though isolated in their own cabinet would readily take out the whole block if something went wrong.

crash325 · Apr 3, 2012

First off the Rule is Stupid - Probably written by someone that knows nothing about welding.

#2 $750 For a welding cart is plumb out of sight. Can't think of any way to build one that would cost that much.

Sure would like to see a picture of that cart.

Sublifer · Apr 3, 2012

crash325 said:
First off the Rule is Stupid - Probably written by someone that knows nothing about welding.

#2 $750 For a welding cart is plumb out of sight. Can't think of any way to build one that would cost that much.

Sure would like to see a picture of that cart.

Ditto.

And if you didn't want to make your own for liability reasons you could hire a local welding shop to make the modification. That way should you need to (and I can't see a panel in between ever making a difference) you would have someone external to point the finger to. And it might cost what $100 at most for the modification...

QRTRHRS · Apr 3, 2012

crash325 said:
Sure would like to see a picture of that cart.

Not sure where the company purchased this one from but you can see pictures of them in the McMaster-Carr catalog. Some of them are over a grand! A quick search should show you plenty of examples.

monckywrench · Apr 3, 2012

There are plenty of pics of that style cart all over the internet, and the OSHA regs referencing the barrier can be downloaded off their site.

All the barrier would do is deflect flame from impinging on the opposite cylinder, but buying time is no bad thing.

The silly pricing is a bit much.

ray66v · Apr 3, 2012

monckywrench said:
All the barrier would do is deflect flame from impinging on the opposite cylinder

It would seem that a piece of ordinary tile backer board could do that.

I have used it for all kinds of fire, and heat proofing.

Haywire · Apr 4, 2012

I would say that the price reflects the cost of the liability insurance that the building company is buying to cover a product like that. You buy instead of build to deflect liability. You're paying through the nose for them to assume that liability.

Ian

Sublifer · Apr 4, 2012

Haywire said:
I would say that the price reflects the cost of the liability insurance that the building company is buying to cover a product like that. You buy instead of build to deflect liability. You're paying through the nose for them to assume that liability.

Ian

Seriously though, who is going to sue their cart manufacturer if their O/A rig blows up? It is a safety aid but it cannot prevent stupidity or accidents.

I can see a judge laughing this out of court... "Your client had an explosion in their building and you want to sue the cart manufacturer? LMFAO! :laughing: What about the pencil manufacturer, are you going to bring them in next? :laughing: " - end mock quote