Narrowed Down to JD 3032e and Bobcat CT235

[renegade13]

As the title says, I've narrowed my choices down to a John Deere 3032e and Bobcat CT235. Their prices are pretty close with the Bobcat coming in a few hundred dollars less. Both tractors have pin on loaders. I'm looking for advice as to which I should choose. It will be used primarily for snow removal with the FEL and a rear blade.

Thanks for your help.

 

[BethesdaEC]

If you ever want to get forks get the JDQA instead of a pin-on bucket. As I recall it is a very nominal amount to upgrade.

 

[lilranch2001]

As the title says, I've narrowed my choices down to a John Deere 3032e and Bobcat CT235. Their prices are pretty close with the Bobcat coming in a few hundred dollars less. Both tractors have pin on loaders. I'm looking for advice as to which I should choose. It will be used primarily for snow removal with the FEL and a rear blade.

Thanks for your help.

Get the Bobtach or whatever Deeres name for it is
You do not want pin on, the quick attach is deff the way to go.

There are some horror stories on here where it takes half an hour plus to get the pin attach hooked back up

I can have my bucket off in 30 seconds and have my pallet forks back on in another minute.

(btw I would go Bobcat)

 

[Dr_Zinj]

Ditto on what lilranch said.

 

[Duffster]

As the title says, I've narrowed my choices down to a John Deere 3032e and Bobcat CT235. Their prices are pretty close with the Bobcat coming in a few hundred dollars less. Both tractors have pin on loaders. I'm looking for advice as to which I should choose. It will be used primarily for snow removal with the FEL and a rear blade.

Thanks for your help.

Think Green. :thumbsup:

 

[Martian]

Personally I'm a Deere guy. Everyone around here is green. My only really close dealers are Deere and Kubota and the Kubota dealer is known as a *ss so this town is mostly green. Very good machines. I wouldn't buy a Bobcat just because they are rebranded Kioti's. If I wanted a Bobcat I would get a Kioti as they are the one who actually designs and builds the tractor. The 3032e is a great machine and sure you would be happy with either but I would go with the 3032e.

As others have said though get the quick attach system. I only have a bucket on for my 3120 but I take it on and off all the time to do stuff like put a chain around the QA system and hook it to something to either lift something to move it around or pull something like a stump up but it offers much better visibility w/o the bucket on it. JUST GET IT!:laughing: Worth the money. I take it on and off all the time. Pull two pins and tilt the bucket on and the reverse to put it on. Super simple. Wouldn't realize how much you use it until you have it.

 

[NOTV8]

Get the Bobcat with bobtach... easy to get implements later :thumbsup:.

 

[k0ua]

I am not going to advise you on the tractor brand, but I would like to echo what the others have said about getting a quick attach of some kind. Either the BobTach or the JD system.. You will be glad you did later. You will pay more later to get it and you will want it. Just me 2 cents.. Good luck on what ever you decide..

James K0UA

 

[lilranch2001]

Personally I'm a Deere guy. Everyone around here is green. My only really close dealers are Deere and Kubota and the Kubota dealer is known as a *ss so this town is mostly green. Very good machines. I wouldn't buy a Bobcat just because they are rebranded Kioti's. If I wanted a Bobcat I would get a Kioti as they are the one who actually designs and builds the tractor. The 3032e is a great machine and sure you would be happy with either but I would go with the 3032e.

As others have said though get the quick attach system. I only have a bucket on for my 3120 but I take it on and off all the time to do stuff like put a chain around the QA system and hook it to something to either lift something to move it around or pull something like a stump up but it offers much better visibility w/o the bucket on it. JUST GET IT!:laughing: Worth the money. I take it on and off all the time. Pull two pins and tilt the bucket on and the reverse to put it on. Super simple. Wouldn't realize how much you use it until you have it.

A Bobcat is not a Kioti any more than a Kioti is a Bobcat
Daedong- Korea makes both tractors

Deeres in many cases are just rebranded Yanmars, what is your position on that?

 

[Martian]

A Bobcat is not a Kioti any more than a Kioti is a Bobcat
Daedong- Korea makes both tractors

Deeres in many cases are just rebranded Yanmars, what is your position on that?

Not to start a debate about this but the entire tractor is made off of the Kioti frame and chassis and is fairly well identical besides paint. You will even here of bobcat owners getting scratches on their machines and it being Kioti orange underneath. To make the same example with John Deere, John Deere owns hitachi construction who makes excavators. They are identical except color. Not that it matters I would just prefer the original. No real reason beyond that. One of the rare situations that the bobcat actually has a bigger brand name than the who they are having the tractor made by, Kioti. In the case you mention with a John Deere actually being a Yanmar because it has a Yanmar engine is like saying if you pull a duramax diesel from a Chevy truck and put it in a ford the ford becomes a Chevy because that's the engine it has. Kioti makes bobcats frame, the hood, the cab, the ROPS, the loader. They make the whole tractor. Yanmar makes an engine and John deere designs and builds everything else. The loader, frame etc. Not that bobcat/Kioti is a bad thing. If I were to get either of those I would get a Kioti. If I were to get any of the three I would get a Deere. But now were completely off topic.

And btw. Deere makes its own engines for most of its tractors on the 4x20 series and up.

 

[DK35vince]

In the case you mention with a John Deere actually being a Yanmar because it has a Yanmar engine is like saying if you pull a duramax diesel from a Chevy truck and put it in a ford the ford becomes a Chevy because that's the engine it has. Kioti makes bobcats frame, the hood, the cab, the ROPS, the loader. They make the whole tractor. Yanmar makes an engine and John deere designs and builds everything else. The loader, frame etc.

Some JD models were ( and maybe a few still are) made by Yanmar.
I have a John Deere 850. It has been a good tractor.
I pretty sure it was made by Yanmar and not just the engine. The entire machine.

 

[lilranch2001]

Not to start a debate about this but the entire tractor is made off of the Kioti frame and chassis and is fairly well identical besides paint. You will even here of bobcat owners getting scratches on their machines and it being Kioti orange underneath. To make the same example with John Deere, John Deere owns hitachi construction who makes excavators. They are identical except color. Not that it matters I would just prefer the original. No real reason beyond that. One of the rare situations that the bobcat actually has a bigger brand name than the who they are having the tractor made by, Kioti. In the case you mention with a John Deere actually being a Yanmar because it has a Yanmar engine is like saying if you pull a duramax diesel from a Chevy truck and put it in a ford the ford becomes a Chevy because that's the engine it has. Kioti makes bobcats frame, the hood, the cab, the ROPS, the loader. They make the whole tractor. Yanmar makes an engine and John deere designs and builds everything else. The loader, frame etc. Not that bobcat/Kioti is a bad thing. If I were to get either of those I would get a Kioti. If I were to get any of the three I would get a Deere. But now were completely off topic.

And btw. Deere makes its own engines for most of its tractors on the 4x20 series and up.

Since you do not want a debate, I will just say that you are flat wrong

They are built on the same line, but they are purpose built for each company
Why in gods green earth would they paint it orange, and then paint it white.
That is ludicrous.

Daedong- Korea makes both tractors Orange for Kioti and White for Bobcat
Please read up on it before you respond

As far as Deere, I did not state which models are Yanmars, I simply said many (should have said some) are. Some only engines, some from the tires up.
I know, I almost bought one a few years back

 

[Duffster]

Since you do not want a debate, I will just say that you are flat wrong

They are built on the same line, but they are purpose built for each company
Why in gods green earth would they paint it orange, and then paint it white.
That is ludicrous.

Daedong- Korea makes both tractors Orange for Kioti and White for Bobcat
Please read up on it before you respond

As far as Deere, I did not state which models are Yanmars, I simply said many (should have said some) are. Some only engines, some from the tires up.
I know, I almost bought one a few years back

What's different between kioti and Bobcat?

 

[lilranch2001]

What's different between kioti and Bobcat?

50 different items according to Bobcats published literature

Mostly nickle and dime some (like the FEL) totally different

O, and what company first developed the industry standard quick attach?

I forget..............

WAIT, that was BOBCAT!!!!!!

 

[Duffster]

50 different items according to Bobcats published literature

Mostly nickle and dime some (like the FEL) totally different

O, and what company first developed the industry standard quick attach?

I forget..............

WAIT, that was BOBCAT!!!!!!

You are resting your argument on the loader being different?

 

[BethesdaEC]

They are built on the same line, but they are purpose built for each company
Why in gods green earth would they paint it orange, and then paint it white.
That is ludicrous.

I heard of it with the attachments and it is probably due to an inventory issue, Kioti has excess inventory and Bob-Cat has none so they quickly send some attachments to the paint shop rather than making more.

 

[Dr_Zinj]

I heard of it with the attachments and it is probably due to an inventory issue, Kioti has excess inventory and Bob-Cat has none so they quickly send some attachments to the paint shop rather than making more.

That's probably THE ONE major problem with just-in-time systems.

You save in inventory costs, but without enough slack built in, any interruptions will cause the entire system to grind to a halt.

Someone on the Bobcat assembly line messed up. But someone else made an evaluation on diversion vs waiting for their system to catch up and then made good decision to divert excess from the Kioti line through the paint department and back to the Bobcat line.

 

[BethesdaEC]

That's probably THE ONE major problem with just-in-time systems.

You save in inventory costs, but without enough slack built in, any interruptions will cause the entire system to grind to a halt.

Someone on the Bobcat assembly line messed up. But someone else made an evaluation on diversion vs waiting for their system to catch up and then made good decision to divert excess from the Kioti line through the paint department and back to the Bobcat line.

I doubt that they have separate lines for Bob-Cat vs. Kioti. Modern manufacturing allows different models to be assembled on the same assembly line.

 

[BleedGreen]

As far as Deere, I did not state which models are Yanmars, I simply said many (should have said some) are. Some only engines, some from the tires up.
I know, I almost bought one a few years back

The only Deere tractors left that are designed and built by Yanmar are the 2x20 Series. The new 1 Series, 3E Series and 3x20 Series all use Yanmar engines but the rest of the tractor is designed and built by Deere. The New 1 Series and 3E Series even have Deere transmissions!

 

[Martian]

I'm not saying its a bad thing. Just if I were to get one of the two I'd get a Kioti as it was the original. I don't like it when another company just adds another color to the industry. They are doing nothing more than adding clutter. More options are a good thing but they are the same tractors with different paint. There's nothing wrong with a Bobcat, I'd get a Kioti if I were to get one of the two.

Back to the OP's question though I would advise the 3032E. A Deere is just a much better tractor IMO.:thumbsup: