Tiller Tiller Advice for SCUT

[gdBX]

Looking for advice on tiller for BX-24, for gardening in heavy NY clay and lawn refurbishing. Plan to break garden up with subsoiler first .
Manual suggests maximum tiller cutting width of 42", and a maximum tiller weight of 375 lbs. the PTO is rated at 17hp. Seem's from the great posts that many are running larger ones, Dealer suggests a Woods Model GTC40 but it does not cover the 44.5 inch wheel base, looking for an alternative with either an offset or 45" inches cut. From posts the KK II 48" seems popular but worried its a bit heavy 600lbs and is rated for PTO of 20 to 30 and I'm thinking its to much for the little BX tractor. The KK XB will not fit the 3 point Quick hitch.
So does anyone have experience with with CCM CR-45 or 50 on a SCUT?
Ore even the CCM MR-110 or MR-130 series? or should I just get the Woods?

 

[charlz]

I use a Landpride 48" on my 16hp B7100. It will definitely load it down once the ground is fluffed enough the tiller can bury itself.... but you don't need to till past that point anyway. You should be fine with a 48" tiller.

 

[wny770]

I use a WOODS GTC52-2 on my TZ25 in the clay here in upstate NY. It performs FLAWLESSLY! It also works with the Speeco quick hitch I have. My opinion is worth 2 cents.....but I highly recommend it.

 

[santacruzer]

gdBX,

I thought the KK II TG 48 at 600 lbs might be too heavy for a smaller tractor but a number of guys have them and say no problem. I have a BX2350 and the word is that the 3 point can handle it easily.

King Kutter also makes the KK TC 48 (note: the KK TC 48 is not the same as the KK TG 48).

The KK TC 48 weighs 425 lbs but is made in China as opposed to USA as per conversation with King Kutter Co.

Hopefully some guys with some practical experience will chime in. The KK II 48 is, according to a lot of folks on this site, about the best deal going.

 

[Kamik]

Go to EverythingAttachments.com and look at hard their T5 series. Ted, Rick and Gerry are very customer service and satisfaction oriented and you can't beat the free shipping.

For my John Deere 2520 with 20 PTO HP the JD dealer recommended a LandPride 58" reverse till tiller. But after looking at LandPride, Woods and others I settled on a 56" T5 and expect to till 7 inches deep.

Primary considerations were:
* Wet or dry soil
* Clay, sandy or rocky soil
* Cutting Width
* Weight

The only problem is that tillers are hard to get due to light inventories that are - surprisingly - quickly selling out.

 

[HayDR]

Looking for advice on tiller for BX-24, for gardening in heavy NY clay and lawn refurbishing. Plan to break garden up with subsoiler first .
Manual suggests maximum tiller cutting width of 42", and a maximum tiller weight of 375 lbs. the PTO is rated at 17hp. Seem's from the great posts that many are running larger ones, Dealer suggests a Woods Model GTC40 but it does not cover the 44.5 inch wheel base, looking for an alternative with either an offset or 45" inches cut. From posts the KK II 48" seems popular but worried its a bit heavy 600lbs and is rated for PTO of 20 to 30 and I'm thinking its to much for the little BX tractor. The KK XB will not fit the 3 point Quick hitch.
So does anyone have experience with with CCM CR-45 or 50 on a SCUT?
Ore even the CCM MR-110 or MR-130 series? or should I just get the Woods?

Look at the Kubota website for your tractor, It shows lift capacity is 992 Lbs at lift point and 661 Lbs 24" behind the lift point. http://kubota.com/f/products/BX24specs.pdf

Your tractor will handle the CR45 or CR50 tillers. They have a hitch designed for your limited CAT 1 3 point hitch.

 

[LBrown59]

Looking for advice on tiller for BX-24, for gardening in heavy NY clay and lawn refurbishing. Plan to break garden up with subsoiler first .
Manual suggests maximum tiller cutting width of 42", and a maximum tiller weight of 375 lbs. the PTO is rated at 17hp. Seem's from the great posts that many are running larger ones, Dealer suggests a Woods Model GTC40 but it does not cover the 44.5 inch wheel base, looking for an alternative with either an offset or 45" inches cut. From posts the KK II 48" seems popular but worried its a bit heavy 600lbs and is rated for PTO of 20 to 30 and I'm thinking its to much for the little BX tractor. The KK XB will not fit the 3 point Quick hitch.
So does anyone have experience with with CCM CR-45 or 50 on a SCUT?
Ore even the CCM MR-110 or MR-130 series? or should I just get the Woods?

gdBX,

I thought the KK II TG 48 at 600 lbs might be too heavy for a smaller tractor but a number of guys have them and say no problem. I have a BX2350 and the word is that the 3 point can handle it easily.

King Kutter also makes the KK TC 48 (note: the KK TC 48 is not the same as the KK TG 48).

The KK TC 48 weighs 425 lbs but is made in China as opposed to USA as per conversation with King Kutter Co.

Hopefully some guys with some practical experience will chime in. The KK II 48 is, according to a lot of folks on this site, about the best deal going.

I have a KK 48'' on my BX1500 . They work fine together.

 

[gdBX]

I have a KK 48'' on my BX1500 . They work fine together.

Do you happen to know which model of KK your using is the TC, TG or XB.

I'm curious that several like land pride and woods appear to use 4 tines and others use 6. Wondering which requires more hp to turn, seems the 6 might be easier for a smoother bite but is it offset by having to rotate more weight?

 

[LBrown59]

Do you happen to know which model of KK your using is it TC, TG or XB.

I'm curious that several like land pride and woods appear to use 4 tines and others use 6. Wondering which requires more hp to turn,
seems the 6 might be easier for a smoother bite but
* is it offset by having to rotate more weight?

It's a TC and it has 6 tines.
*The 6 tines are Not a problem for this tractor.

This is a little BX with only 15 horse power and it handles the tiller just fines so your BX24 should hardly know it's back there.
I could use the tiller on my BX23 also but I just leave it on the BX1500.
Saves having to remove and install both the Back Hoe and the Tiller to use them.
All in all a real set up.

 

[jnjpream]

I have a BX22 and just used my new KKII 48" the other day. It was SLOW going on earth that hadn't been tilled before. The soil was just moist enough to not produce any dust. The tiller did a good job, but it did give the tractor a workout. I did two passes, and I was able to move slightly faster on the second pass provided I didn't try to dig up more and just retill the spoils from the first pass.

I can't remember if it is a TC or TG (it's raining right now, so I'm not going to go look), but it is definately not the XB. It is the heavy one, so must be the TG.

I tilled 100 ft of some really dry dirt too, and it chewed right through it w/o thinking about it. Although I think half of it blew away because it was so dry.

So it's going to depend on your soil conditions... If you're going to do moist/wet clay, forget it.

Jeff

 

[baddaddy]

I just purchased a KK II TG 48 for my B7610. It's a beast and I'm very glad I went with the KK. My 7610 handles it pretty easily. I also purchased some extra tines from broken tractor because here in New England, we have god awful rocky soil. The tines are about a quarter inch thick hardened steel. I'm not sure if I'll need them for a while because football sized rocks just get pushed out the back with no problem. I was concerned at first at the 600 lb weight of this thing, but now I'm just glad I bought this baby. Best I could find for the bucks.

 

[spruce Deere]

Looking for advice on tiller for BX-24, for gardening in heavy NY clay and lawn refurbishing. Plan to break garden up with subsoiler first .
Manual suggests maximum tiller cutting width of 42", and a maximum tiller weight of 375 lbs. the PTO is rated at 17hp. Seem's from the great posts that many are running larger ones, Dealer suggests a Woods Model GTC40 but it does not cover the 44.5 inch wheel base, looking for an alternative with either an offset or 45" inches cut. From posts the KK II 48" seems popular but worried its a bit heavy 600lbs and is rated for PTO of 20 to 30 and I'm thinking its to much for the little BX tractor. The KK XB will not fit the 3 point Quick hitch.
So does anyone have experience with with CCM CR-45 or 50 on a SCUT?
Ore even the CCM MR-110 or MR-130 series? or should I just get the Woods?

Hello gdbx. I have a 240D 24 hp yanmar. It handles a 48 in. tiller in our heavy clay well. The tractor does lug down a bit, but not to the point of no return. The tiller is a maletti 4 tine per flange, all gear driven. I thinks it in the 300 to 400 pound range. Another tree farm fella I know runs a 52 in. woods on his b2410 kubota. It seems to behave just as good in clay as the smaller tiller on like size tractors. I think a 48in tiller would be fine on your tractor. look into medium duty tillers for less weight. Good luck

 

[nunyabinis]

Saturday I used my KKII 60" tiller behind my 1984 JD 750 (18 pto hp) to till up some rock hard compacted yard that is planted in common bermuda grass that has roots that go down almost a foot. I took it slow on the first pass but after the forth pass it looked like a garden plot ready for planting.



The KKII tiller is freakin' awesome.

 

[tatra805]

Running a 48" with 19HP in clay without problems.

Ground speed is crucial as well as pto rpm.

Till now i never had to go second pass and with the tiller down i got to around 12-15 inch deep. 1st or 2nd, mid box in 2nd and Low gearing.

tractor was really working for that but kept the 2800 rpm without a problem.

At 540 pto rpm it was much harder and the chuncks too big.

I'm still a newby in tilling but think you will easily find the comfortable settings nomatter what tiller you have.

To my opinion ground conditions will make a much bigger difference than a couple of inches more or less tiller. Cover your trackwidth as a minimum.

We were going over an area in a field where there is an underground stream. those 15ft i had to go to 1st gear all the time while the rest of the field was done in 2nd. You could not see the difference before or after but the moisture level must have been different there.

 

[HayDR]

The vast majority of tillers work only at 540 RPM's. If you operate these 540 only tillers at a faster speed you will damage the tiller. Grey market tillers and lawn & garden units do work at other speeds.

 

[gdBX]

Another tree farm fella I know runs a 52 in. woods on his b2410 kubota. It seems to behave just as good in clay as the smaller tiller on like size tractors. I think a 48in tiller would be fine on your tractor. look into medium duty tillers for less weight. Good luck

That's good to know the B2410 has 18hp PTO too. Sounds like I can go up to 52" inches then, especially if I do several passes, on no more seat time will be in order .
Thanks you all for the great advice! now I love to hear from some one who has used the CCM's CR-45 or CR-50? Are they holding up well?