Building Permit...911 Registration

[foggy1111]

So.....the other day I mailed in a building permit application to the county where my hunting land is located. I am planning a new 30x40 pole building on 107 acres of land I own....I had talked with the county earlier and did not anticipate any problems with the permit.

The county called today....and the gal calling was quite upset with me and wondered where I came up with the address for my land. I told her I looked at the need for it on the form.....and looked at my neighbors address' and it just stood to reason that this number would be an appropriate number for my new building. SHE WAS AGAST!!...that I would "make up" such a number!!...and told me that I need to apply for a 911 number and send in another $50. to have a legal address. (I am already giving the county $240. for a building permit - And my building is going to be located near 12 avenue and 45th street in a very rural area.....so this ain't exactly rocket science.)

So....this got my goat a bit...and I decided to press this issue. I told her she could put what ever address on the application that she wanted...and unless it was required I didn't see any point in "registering" the address. She told me I needed it if I had a sewer or water....noooo.....or if I had power or other services to the building......nooooooo Well.....she could think of no other reason I NEEDED to have a number other than if an emergency. At the end of the day....she agreed I did not HAVE TO have a number for my building permit...and if I did have a number....the one I had chosen for the application would be correct....so she was going to use it. LMAO

Somtimes you just gotta wonder.

 

[ultrarunner]

Nothing surprises me much any more...

Congratulations on standing your ground and prevailing!

 

[foggy1111]

Hmmmm....how do you spell bureaurcacy? I give these clowns enough money allready in taxes....one would think they can at least assign me a number....H***, I got a tax ID number......I told her...put that number on the permit.....lol

 

[Tig]

From late fall to early spring the 911 number issued to my property would lead emergency services to a locked gate on someone else's private lane, (which I use in the summer) I requested a correction to the address. The township said no problem but it's easier said than done.
My mailing address is correct because I made it up at the post office, tax address is not. I use either address as I see fit when I need to give it out. Last fall when I recovered some stolen property the police were able to find my "new" not yet official address. UPS found me even with the street sign knocked down.
In time I hope to get things sorted out.

 

[Bird]

When we were living on 10 acres in the boondocks, our mailing address was Rt. 1, Box xx but then for the 911 emergency system, they needed a street name and number, so the county had a lady in charge of that and apparently she did a good job, but there was no charge for it at all.

But in the event of an emergency or an accident, you may someday wish you had a good address instead of complaining later about how long it took the police, fire trucks, and/or ambulance to find you.

In most cases, the numbering system is at least somewhat logical and houses are numbers in sequence, but in one town in which I did a gas leakage survey in '93, it appeared that everyone just made up whatever number they liked; not in any kind of sequential order at all.

 

[foggy1111]

I really do appreciate what you are saying Bird.....and have given that some thought....and I agree about the emergency services. But....even without a building (like now) they need an address to respond to....and that would be a made up address as it stands right now.

I just get sooo tired of paying fees, and permits and taxes for everything they can hook me for. It gets very "old"....and I pay waaay to many taxes already...the least they could do is furnish a new address (free of charge or included in the charge ) with a building permit. I rest my case.

 

[DUMBDOG]

The fifty dollar 911 fee may seem a bit much. It is not part of the building fee.

A couple of years ago a small fire started at the farm while I was away. The wife called me and I called 911 for the fire department. They arrived down there before I did, you could see the skid marks on the gravel road where they had to hit the brakes and back up for the approach. If I had had the 911 address this would not have happened. In this case a few seconds did not matter, however you never know.

I know where you are coming from, Minnesota is a very high tax state, between the real estate taxes. income tax and the sales tax. This of course does not include the breathing tax that that are going to start collecting July 1.

 

[chh]

We finally got 911 adresses here about 4 years ago. As of now there is still not a map available to UPS, Fedex, ambulance, fire or police for the addresses. If you give out your address there are still many times that you have to give out directions how to get to your house. My house technically does not have address, my mailbox does, but it is a 1/2 mile from my house. 911 sure makes me feel safe.
Of course it didn't help that when the addresses where being formatted some genius in the postal service decided all the addresses where invalid and decreed a different format for the system startup.
example
N CR 4390 ( North County Road 4390)

became

N CR 4390 ROAD

After about 6 months this was overruled and the whole county had to fill out change of address forms reverting back to the original format. And all this is only costing me how much a month???

 

[Bird]

I just get sooo tired of paying fees, and permits and taxes for everything they can hook me for.

I certainly agree with you on that. I had not heard of any fees for assigning an address to a location.

some genius in the postal service decided all the addresses where invalid and decreed a different format for the system startup.

Some sort of standardization is almost necessary, but there are usually some options. When we went from a Route 1, Box xx type of address to a streeet address, we lived at 18870 Northwest County Road 3360 and it could be written out like that or abbreviated NW CR 3360.

When some things get entered into computers, it may take years to get it changed. We currently live in the City of Corinth, a little town of 19k or so population just south of Denton. This town has no post office. Our mail carrier comes from the main post office in Denton. The post office "preferred" address is "Corinth, TX" but some mapping and/or computer systems show our zip code to be Denton, while others show it to be Corinth. I use a credit card and that company always sends the bill addressed to "Denton". I called and told them it gets delivered alright, but the preferred address is "Corinth". They said they can only change it in their computer if the post office tells them to. Me telling them the post office prefers something different ain't good enough.

 

[jdbower]

I'd probably suck it up and pay the fee. Not having an address is fine. Having an address is also fine. Now you'll be stuck in the netherworld of neither having nor not having an address. Since the number appears on some paperwork, but not others, there may be nothing to prevent your pseudo-address from being automatically assigned when your neighbor subdivides his property. Should you decide to sell you may also be passing on these issues to whoever buys/inherits your property when they try to add a power line drop. As annoying as it is to spend $50 today, you may end up needing to spend a lot more time and money in the future just to fix mistakes having a half-way address could create.