Difference between a 8N tractor and a 9N tractor?

[mjdtexan]

Search Craigs lists and Ebay for tractors. I bought mine off ebay, guy was in Cleveland.

We purchased a 1991 Case IH 1140 with a belly mower. I believe belly mowers are finishing mowers right? Going to TSC to buy this DIRT BUCKET

 

[Diamondpilot]

Congrads.

Chris

 

[RobJ]

We purchased a 1991 Case IH 1140 with a belly mower. I believe belly mowers are finishing mowers right? Going to TSC to buy this DIRT BUCKET

Correct FM finish mower.

got to post some pics!!

 

[mjdtexan]

Correct FM finish mower.

got to post some pics!!

Did, its in Owning/Operating as its own topic

Some of the abbreveations (sp?) are throwing me for a loop in here. Took me forever to get FEL. There are still some I dont get.

 

[Danno1]

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Search this site for "acronyms". There was a thread a year or two back where most of them got defined. Or search for 3RRL. I think he was the one who wrote most of the list.

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[JoeinTX]

Jeezus Krist....you go from lookin' at a real man-maker in an 8/9n to a dolly-rig like a glorified lawn mower?

Ain't even in the same phone book, my sir.



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[mjdtexan]

Jeezus Krist....you go from lookin' at a real man-maker in an 8/9n to a dolly-rig like a glorified lawn mower?

Ain't even in the same phone book, my sir.



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I expect I got that coming. I think I made a good decision though. I am still interested in the 8n's actually. I think I would like to restore one. I think they are nice looking in a restored condition.

 

[JoeinTX]

Not at all......I kid you, I kid you. That's a very clean looking 17 year old tractor and I'm sure you'll find a lot of use for it.


My dad has a Ford NAA (followed the 8n in production, slightly bigger) and it's the tractor I grew up on. A few years ago he fell bass-ackwards into a little Kubota 25hp rig.....HST, FEL, FWA, all the goodies. I still prefer the 8n/NAA because I'm so comfortable with them but that little Kubota can do some amazing things for its size and hp rating and do them very economically when it comes to fuel use.


Good luck and enjoy......

 

[Soundguy]

FYI

9N = 1939 start production date
2N = 1942 start production date
8N = 1952 start production date

The deal with the left brake on the left is a huge deal breaker. !!!!

Think about this, you want to stop quickly, what do you do? Hit the brake with the right foot and the clutch with the left. What happens? Tractor spins hard to the right as only the right brake is activated!! If you are going too fast, flips-ville. You have to clutch, shift to N, then stomp with both feet at the same time. No such thing as a fast stop with the 2N

jb

Come on guys.. all you ford 9n/2n owners know you can adjust the left side pedals so you can clutch and brake at the same time! ( plus production date wrong fo rhte 8n )

soundguy

 

[Olmike]

When I wasA kid I grew up on Dad's old 2N.It had A hand lever on the left brake that got used alot.As far as the tractor making A hard right turn,we all know those brakes didn't work that good. Also watched the ol man mow with the old BMB mower with no overide clutch.He went through A few fences before he finally bought one.

 

[mjdtexan]

Also watched the ol man mow with the old BMB mower with no overide clutch.He went through A few fences before he finally bought one.

What exactly is an overide clutch? Where do I get one? Do you have to have one for every implement that is pto driven?

 

[Soundguy]

An overiding clutch is used on a tractor that has a non live , tranny driven pto.. What happens is that implements that have lots of built up inertia.. like a rough cut rotary mower will act like a flywheel and backfeed power to the transmission, even when the single stage clutch is pushed down.. thus.. you stomp the clutch, and the mower backfeeds the tranny, and rear end.. and you go thru the fence.. etc.

The ORC is a 1-way ratcheting device, and allows the mower to 'overspeed' the pto stub.. IE.. pto stub can stop.. and mower keep going.. this prevents power backfeed.

TSC and other farms stores carry them.

soundguy

 

[mjdtexan]

An overiding clutch is used on a tractor that has a non live , tranny driven pto..

soundguy

I am new to tractors. How do I know ifin my tractor has a non live, tranny driven pto..? I do not have a manuel for the tractor yet.

1991 Case International 1140 3cyl Mitsubishi, 2wd.

Thanks for your answer by the way.

 

[Soundguy]

Only info I can find on an 1140 tells me it has an independent pto.

Is that correct? do yuo have to push the clutch to engage your pto?

If not, then no worries.. independent pto is by definition, live.

soundguy

 

[mjdtexan]

Only info I can find on an 1140 tells me it has an independent pto.

Is that correct? do yuo have to push the clutch to engage your pto?

If not, then no worries.. independent pto is by definition, live.

soundguy

Ok, I went outside and opereated the pto in the rear, I did not have to push in the clutch.

There is a lever just like it, right next to it, that operates the Woods belly mower. I do have to push the clutch in to operate that. Its kinda finicky too. Some times I have to try it a couple of times before it goes in. Is this a pto as well? The deck is belt driven.

Just to be clear, I do not need one of those clutch override thingies because the pto is live?

 

[Diamondpilot]

I am guessing you are not going to need one on this tractor. On a N series Ford you would need one. What you really need is the manual. On my Jinma tractor I have what is called a dual stage clutch. I push the clutch in aprox half way and the drive wheels stop and the pto continues to run. If I push in the clutch all the way it stop both the drive wheels and the pto.

Chris

 

[mjdtexan]

I am guessing you are not going to need one on this tractor. On a N series Ford you would need one. What you really need is the manual. On my Jinma tractor I have what is called a dual stage clutch. I push the clutch in aprox half way and the drive wheels stop and the pto continues to run. If I push in the clutch all the way it stop both the drive wheels and the pto.

Chris

Yes, I do need a manual. Gonna have to search for one.

 

[Soundguy]

Diamond pilot has live pto via 2-stage clutch.. sounds like you have independent rear pto.. however your 'mid pto' sounds trans driven.

soundguy

 

[Rara Avis]

PITA?





Hey, thanks for the Tractor Supply tip.

You got me on the PITA thing though

It's the bread that real Greek Gyro is wrapped in...