YM226D Starter

[MJBilbo]

Seems my starter is calling it quits. Trying to find a replacement. The only number I can find of the starter motor is on the solenoid. The part number is ZM68612V

Do not think this is the original starter. Anyone have an idea of a good part number and where to acquire this. Have charged the battery and had it tested in 2 places
and they both said it was a good battery. When I turn the key it just clicked and the motor did not turn over. Going directly to the starter and closing the circuit with
a trusty screwdriver it did the same thing. Just clicked. When it clicked, the radiator fan acted like it wanted to turn but it did not.

 

[winston1]

Might take your starter to the places that checked your battery and let them check it. Here is one possibility for you if it is bad. STARTER ASSEMBLY - GEAR REDUCTION: Yanmar Tractor Parts

You could carry the old one to a starter repair shop.

 

[clemsonfor]

Yea if your nearbor in a larger size town, or even a small town and especially if racing is big in the are there will be electrical shops that will rebuild it for like $40 assuming it is a correct starter for the tractor this is a good option.

 

[tre873]

My 2310D was doing something similar. I disassembled the starter and one of the springs on the brushes was broken. I replaced the spring and it has been working great for the past 2 years. I meant to take pics of the process but forgot in the excitement of getting it fixed. It's a really simple repair and the "hardest" part was getting the brushes pushed back on reassembly.

 

[California]

Yanmar specified a 1.2 or 1.4 kw starter for my YM240. I found on Ebay a $100, new, 2.0 kw starter for Yanmar's larger engines that fits perfectly. It spins the engine frantically.

I described it in this old post that linked to RareElectrical, a top quality vendor. I see now the link in my post goes to a different vendor, same starter, $90 including shipping.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/232442-ym1700-wont-start-2.html#post2688104

I like the faster cranking provided by this more powerful starter. I think it is broad-application and might match that 226 starter. Check the teeth, bolt pattern, length.

 

[radios1]

Might take your starter to the places that checked your battery and let them check it. Here is one possibility for you if it is bad. STARTER ASSEMBLY - GEAR REDUCTION: Yanmar Tractor Parts

You could carry the old one to a starter repair shop.

WOW, that's cheap for a tractor starter!. I remember one poster (unknown model) said his starter costs over $1000

 

[rScotty]

Yanmar specified a 1.2 or 1.4 kw starter for my YM240. I found on Ebay a $100, new, 2.0 kw starter for Yanmar's larger engines that fits perfectly. It spins the engine frantically.

I described it in this old post that linked to RareElectrical, a top quality vendor. I see now the link in my post goes to a different vendor, same starter, $90 including shipping.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/232442-ym1700-wont-start-2.html#post2688104

I like the faster cranking provided by this more powerful starter. I think it is broad-application and might match that 226 starter. Check the teeth, bolt pattern, length.

Yep, starters are a lot better now than they used to be. In fact, electric motors and generators are way more efficient across the board, even though they look similar and use the same parts as the older versions. That is, they spin faster and harder for less current than older designs.
Still, the older ones are adequate, and they are cheap and simple to rebuild.
Most auto-electric shops will rebuild any any starter for around $100. That's what our local shop charges. He doesn't care what kind of starter it is. They are all much the same inside.

But before taking a starter apart it makes sense to just replace (or rebuild) the solenoid. Most problems with starters that CLICK BUT DON"T SPIN and have a good battery are either bad battery cable connections or because the internal points in the solenoid are burnt and not passing enough current to the starter.

The bottom line is: If the battery and cables are good, replace the solenoid that sits on the starter before replacing the starter itself. Especially if it clicks good.
luck,
rScotty

 

[rScotty]

WOW, that's cheap for a tractor starter!. I remember one poster (unknown model) said his starter costs over $1000

Radios, don't you just love it when a grifter exposes himself through his ignorance? At least it lets you know who to avoid....

The truth is that most starter problems cost the mechanic zero dollars to fix; it's just a matter of taking it apart and making it right again. That's why starter rebuilds are a popular source of after-hours cash and beer money at the mechanical shop.
rScotty

 

[radios1]

Radios, don't you just love it when a grifter exposes himself through his ignorance? At least it lets you know who to avoid....

The truth is that most starter problems cost the mechanic zero dollars to fix; it's just a matter of taking it apart and making it right again. That's why starter rebuilds are a popular source of after-hours cash and beer money at the mechanical shop.
rScotty

agreed, the starter I was talking about could not be bought ANYWHERE for less than over $1000 even at the dealer.. but I doubt ANY tractor manufacturer has custom built starters, it's just a matter of finding out the make and model number of the starter the tractor manufacturer uses, and save big time $$.

 

[careyo63]

MJBilbo has 2 different starters listed. 336 on his Profile and asking for a 226 on the heading for the thread. Doesn't really matter and tre873 is correct. Although my brushes was just plain worn out. When I was looking at them I notice the lead to them was offset. Turned those suckers around and got 2-3 yrs. out of the starter. When I did have to rebuild it and new It was time to get the whole starter gone through they even commented on it. I believe it was I got all I could get out of those brushes.
Now on the either or 226-336 doesn't matter they're the same. So you want to get out cheap and not much to replacing them and the bushings here you go!!Starter Repair Kit Fits Yanmar Tractor Hitachi Starter Model S12-77 | eBay :thumbsup: You can check it and the starter motor# is Hitachi S12-77

 

[normde2001]

"When it clicked, the radiator fan acted like it wanted to turn but it did not."
Can you turn the engine over by hand, and assure it is not seized?

 

[careyo63]

Uh.Oh! 1000 dollar starter...

 

[radios1]

Uh.Oh! 1000 dollar starter...

right here.. https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/ls-tractor-owning-operating/404514-ls-5020-starter-problem.html

 

[careyo63]

My point. Esp. how rare it would be locked up unknowingly to Norm. And more of a shady repair shop price. I honestly don't think that was for a starter even with labor included no matter how shady. Wrong repair ticket maybe? I don't know.
It's been 2 days and with it trying to turn over, Fan trying to move. He may have found the problem. If locked up I think we would of heard about it my now.

 

[clemsonfor]

Did it have the same #of teeth on the Bendix. I have read hoye saying there were some that bolted up but tooth could was off and it would grind the flywheel.

 

[clemsonfor]

Hoye lists a starter for our ym2000 for like $350 I was thinking. So I can see some stealership charging a markup of $50so on that starter they would charge $400. If it was in a hard to get to spot, like removing a loader or lots of side panels, charging diagnostics I can easily see them charging another $400 for a total of $800. And if it was a $400 or $500 starter it could be closer to that price.

I wouldn't pay that but I can see it. Some of these places have crazy labor prices.

 

[careyo63]

I know what your saying and agree with some repair shops and taking advantage of a unknowing customer. Sure it happens. I know what a JD. setup with a frontier loader on it is like. Not an issue there. And they're expensive and know what other repairs cost. Were talking a foot or two clearance and I think only 3 bolts. The YM2000 that would be around 100$ a bolt. 2 mounting the starter and 2 Elec. And maybe a couple to get the loader out of the way. Wow! They don't stay in business that long. Again I think the poster found the problem. All he has done was checked the battery so IMHO bad cables, Bad/dirty Ground to the frame or actually to the battery. Not knowing just because the battery is clean but the cable connections to it are dirty. It's been a while for sure not hearing anything and it was that simple of a problem.

 

[clemsonfor]

Yeah $1000 for our yanmar starters would be a screw job for sure.

I had an issue with my starter Bendix not jumping out. I took the solenoid most of the way off and put it back on and it's been fine for a year or so, I must have knocked loose some corrosion or fixed a bad connection in the process.

 

[radios1]

Yeah $1000 for our yanmar starters would be a screw job for sure.

I had an issue with my starter Bendix not jumping out. I took the solenoid most of the way off and put it back on and it's been fine for a year or so, I must have knocked loose some corrosion or fixed a bad connection in the process.

be very glad you don't own an LS tractor!. 'LS' Starter for U5020 & U5020C Tractors: Genuine 'LS' Part! and you can't find them cheaper!..

 

[California]

be very glad you don't own an LS tractor!. 'LS' Starter for U5020 & U5020C Tractors: Genuine 'LS' Part! and you can't find them cheaper!..

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