Yanmar tug of war

   / Yanmar tug of war #31  
YM2000.



I don't know where that 1664 lbs for YM2000 came from. Maybe the early YM2000, the green one where the hood hinges at the rear.

I got the info from tractor data so it is only as accurate as the info they provided. I cannot vouch for its accuracy.:thumbsup:
 
   / Yanmar tug of war #32  
Ballast equal?
After pondering on it for awhile, I decided the most scientific test would be to set up each tractor as it would be for pulling an implement like a disk or plow.

That means, for me, 165 lbs of suitcase weights on the 2000, and 240 lbs on the 186. Both have filled tires and cast iron wheel weights. I think both my tractors are heavier than a normal operator would be likely to get them. The Nebraska test for the YM 240, though, shows an extra 500 lbs of cast iron wheel weights on their machine vs mine. I don't know how they got that on, but the 2000 would out pull the 186 with the extra mass, in my estimation.

I ran a chain between the drawbars, got the 2000 idling in first gear low range, then popped the 186 into first low range. I had a string tied such that I could tug and shift the 186 into neutral from a distance. After 10 or 15 seconds, the 186 had pulled the 2000 back
about 2 inches. Neither tractor wheelied; having an implement on definitely makes them more wheelie prone. (But provides some resistance if it does rear up.)

The 2000 has an advantage in plowing or disking. It handles implements more easily, has a longer wheelbase, and larger tires. Plowing and disking work best with some speed, and given roughly equal traction, the YM2000 pulls these implements faster, and gives better results. The 186 has a decisive edge in maneuverability and
compactness, and handles implements well in places too tight for access by the YM2000.

My guess is as I originally postulated: The YM1500D will out pull a 2000 in unmodified form, but the YM2000 is a more capable machine
in some circumstances, because of the 33% increase in power and bigger tires. For disking, plowing, and mowing, assuming open enough access, the YM 2000 is the better choice. For other purposes, the
YM1500D may be better.
 
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#33  
You also confirmed my theory that neither tractor would wheelie. No doubt this scenario could be debatable for a long time. 284, one thing your test does prove is the pulling ability that 4 wheel drive offers. This has been an entertaining thread to me. Nobody has been killed or injured and I certainly wasn't wanting any risky ventures when I started this. Thanks for all the input. :thumbsup:
 
   / Yanmar tug of war #34  
I believe there is a safer and more practical way to find which tractor will out pull the other. If you could hook up each to the same all purpose plow, lets say a 5 ft. 7 shank. Drop it into the soil side by side, and have each tractor take a pull at it just to see how far each would pull before breaking traction and can no longer pull. Measure these distances and you'll have you answer.. basically. Like the sports tractor pulls with the sleds .

I have a 5 shank like 6 ft wide old ford plow. It will stop the tractor and make me spin but sometimes it will start walking over if it catches and tires have good traction, so this still can be dangerous.
 
   / Yanmar tug of war #35  
Like Clemson said, this IS still dangerous, and I don't recommend anybody ever do something like this.
 
   / Yanmar tug of war #36  
After 10 or 15 seconds, the 186 had pulled the 2000 back about 2 inches.
I'm impressed.

I bought my YM186D hoping it could match the YM240 (YM2000), but I thought it was an unreasonable expectation. Pulling anywhere near as strong as the 240 would be sufficient for me.

The key here seems to be to get enough ballast on the 186's nose so its front axle pulls hard.

My experience pulling my 2,000 lb watering trailer in my sloping orchard showed that those two models have similar pulling power, but I had assumed the 240 (YM2000) had some advantage. Score one for science; this real-world test blows away my expectation for what 'should be'.

Also - I agree on maneuverability. Another advantage of the 186 is it will pull a lot harder in a sharp turn, compared to the 240 which can only be forced into a tight turn (under load, soft ground) using the turning brakes. This is important to me to make U-turns through the 15 ft spacing in some of my orchard rows. Due to overhead clearance I need to take a precise path while making such a U-turn and its a lot easier with the 186. On soft ground with that 2,000 lb watering trailer the 240 wants to plow straight ahead regardless of its steering wheel.


Thanks for making this test and sharing your results. :thumbsup:
 
   / Yanmar tug of war #37  
All that effort and not even a pic of torn up dirt or anything shame 284! :laughing: (I thought as much on the 4wd out pulling the bigger 2wd)

Including some dirt to look at. :)
 

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#38  
All that effort and not even a pic of torn up dirt or anything shame 284! :laughing: (I thought as much on the 4wd out pulling the bigger 2wd)

Including some dirt to look at. :)

What are you going to plant there?
 
   / Yanmar tug of war #39  
Heres a bigger tug of war :)


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The 1500 might have trouble with those bad boys. :D
 

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