Would You Loan It Out?

/ Would You Loan It Out? #221  
Sorry if I missed it but shouldn't the borrower return the lender's tiller when requested? Otherwise, lender has to make a 20 minute round trip, disconnect it from borrower's tractor, reconnect it to his own, disconnect it at home if he is using another attachment... Borrower sounds like he's doing lender a favor by letting lender have it back before borrower is finished with his unilateral decision to keep it longer.
It never seems to work that way. I used to loan my winch to an ex-GFs son about 50 miles away. Every time I would have to go get it. Of course he was never around, and I wasn't about to use his brand new Montana even if he would have given me the keys.
Have you ever wrestled a 600 lb implement into the back of a truck alone? I actually got pretty adept at it. Finally I found him a really good deal on a winch, which I would otherwise have bought myself and sold for a profit.
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #222  
It's amazing how many people will read Post #1, ignore the rest of the thread, and then reply "Get your tiller back, NOW".

Several others have mentioned that the OP already posted that he has the tiller back in his possession. These mentions are obviously not being seen by the quick-to-post posters.
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #223  
A neighbor who lives down the road from me, a neighbor who I've only met once or twice, finds out that I have a tiller. I have a Woods RT72.40 6ft tiller. Last spring, he "hired" me to till his garden plot, about a half acre. And by hired, I mean, I drove down the road about 10 minutes, tilled up the sod where he had marked, and drove home unpaid. He suddenly had to leave and never did pay the agreed amount of $50, which, in my opinion, was a steal. I really didn't care about the money, and didn't push for it.

This last weekend he calls me, first time I've spoken to him all year. He asked to borrow the tiller and informed me that he has recently purchased a new tractor.

Being the nice and helpful person I am, and realizing that this wont take much of my time, I reluctantly agreed. The tiller has been sitting all winter, so I brought it up to the shop, checked the gear oil, greased it, and slipped the slip clutch. I checked it all over for damage and set it next to my garage for an easy hook up to his tractor. He shows up in a small Branson 2400 21 HP at the PTO.... and backs up to my 6 foot wide tiller. Upon learning that his new tractor is only 24 engine HP, I advised that his tractor is simply not enough. I offered to use my tractor. He scoffed and said that he knows what he is doing, and he cannot afford my high prices! I left him to his work of hooking up to my tiller, hoping, at this point, that his 3 point wouldn't even lift it. But it did and he drove down the road.

He sends me a text message that afternoon: He said that the tiller worked very well. He was able to till at "15-1800 RPM, 1/1," and he needs to borrow it a bit longer. I needed clarification. Why so low of RPM? What is 1/1? Why does he need it longer?

Apparently, he is running as slow as the tractor could go: first gear, first range (1/1), and had to slow the RPM of the engine down to move slow enough across the ground, to do a good job. He needs it longer because he has decided to not only do the garden, but expand his garden, and also put in a big back yard.

My wife called me an idiot. Am I too nice? Too helpful? Would you have loaned your tiller (or other attachment) out to someone like this? He still has it, and I haven't heard anything back. I drove by his house this morning and I saw his garden is bigger, all tilled up, but couldn't see his back yard.

What kind of damage could I expect on my tiller of running it at low RPM on virgin soil? Its gear driven, so I assume the gears are taking a beating?
No one "borrows" ANYTHING of mine. Stuff always gets broken, maladjusted, torqued, dirty, and takes me pressing for a return! Nope. He gets to go shopping for a tiller now that he's king krap with a tractor.
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #224  
Don't loan anything you cannot affort to have broken or not returned at all, espcially to a neighbor like that. Your wife seems to have given the proper evalulation.
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #226  
Yes, I would loan him anything he wanted to borrow, just tell him he can pick it up on the 12th, the 12th of never.
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #227  
The worst part is that your wife was right....again, lol.

Don't take it hard; you were trying to help a guy. Any bad acts/karma are on him, not you.
I'm really glad my wife has the ability to be right a lot of the time, over the years I've learned enough from her that it is very seldom that she has to be right anymore. :)

I think the original poster has a good heart and wanted to help his neighbor, but like me regretted the decision after making it. I think he would be a good neighbor to have.
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #229  
A neighbor who lives down the road from me, a neighbor who I've only met once or twice, finds out that I have a tiller. I have a Woods RT72.40 6ft tiller. Last spring, he "hired" me to till his garden plot, about a half acre. And by hired, I mean, I drove down the road about 10 minutes, tilled up the sod where he had marked, and drove home unpaid. He suddenly had to leave and never did pay the agreed amount of $50, which, in my opinion, was a steal. I really didn't care about the money, and didn't push for it.

This last weekend he calls me, first time I've spoken to him all year. He asked to borrow the tiller and informed me that he has recently purchased a new tractor.

Being the nice and helpful person I am, and realizing that this wont take much of my time, I reluctantly agreed. The tiller has been sitting all winter, so I brought it up to the shop, checked the gear oil, greased it, and slipped the slip clutch. I checked it all over for damage and set it next to my garage for an easy hook up to his tractor. He shows up in a small Branson 2400 21 HP at the PTO.... and backs up to my 6 foot wide tiller. Upon learning that his new tractor is only 24 engine HP, I advised that his tractor is simply not enough. I offered to use my tractor. He scoffed and said that he knows what he is doing, and he cannot afford my high prices! I left him to his work of hooking up to my tiller, hoping, at this point, that his 3 point wouldn't even lift it. But it did and he drove down the road.

He sends me a text message that afternoon: He said that the tiller worked very well. He was able to till at "15-1800 RPM, 1/1," and he needs to borrow it a bit longer. I needed clarification. Why so low of RPM? What is 1/1? Why does he need it longer?

Apparently, he is running as slow as the tractor could go: first gear, first range (1/1), and had to slow the RPM of the engine down to move slow enough across the ground, to do a good job. He needs it longer because he has decided to not only do the garden, but expand his garden, and also put in a big back yard.

My wife called me an idiot. Am I too nice? Too helpful? Would you have loaned your tiller (or other attachment) out to someone like this? He still has it, and I haven't heard anything back. I drove by his house this morning and I saw his garden is bigger, all tilled up, but couldn't see his back yard.

What kind of damage could I expect on my tiller of running it at low RPM on virgin soil? Its gear driven, so I assume the gears are taking a beating?
I definitely wouldn’t risk it been burnt too many times
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #231  
In my humble opinion,
Any neighbor worth loaning a tool to is worth operating the tool for!
That is my policy. I have had a lot of good neighbors and a lot of tools.
I have kept good neighbors good by doing the work for them.
I have kept bad neighbors good by only using this rule. Often bad neighbors havre "other plans" for what they really intend to do with your tool.
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #232  
You might consider giving the tiller to your wife. Then you can simply respond that you don't have a tiller and anyone wanting to borrow it will have to check with her.
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #233  
A neighbor who lives down the road from me, a neighbor who I've only met once or twice, finds out that I have a tiller. I have a Woods RT72.40 6ft tiller. Last spring, he "hired" me to till his garden plot, about a half acre. And by hired, I mean, I drove down the road about 10 minutes, tilled up the sod where he had marked, and drove home unpaid. He suddenly had to leave and never did pay the agreed amount of $50, which, in my opinion, was a steal. I really didn't care about the money, and didn't push for it.

This last weekend he calls me, first time I've spoken to him all year. He asked to borrow the tiller and informed me that he has recently purchased a new tractor.

Being the nice and helpful person I am, and realizing that this wont take much of my time, I reluctantly agreed.
That's a far as I read, as I figured you already did two stupid things right there, so there was no need to see it go any further down hill!!

Live and learn...

SR
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #234  
I gave my mom a key to my place, in case she needed a place to rest or cool off when she came into town to see the doctor.

Somehow the younger brother ended up with my key. He would come by and borrow tools, when I wasn’t home.

He borrowed my Bosch power plane to trim doors at Mom’s house. It didn't come home. I asked him a few times. And he didn’t bring it back. I needed it for a project, so I bought a new one.

He was really pissed when he opened his Christmas present, and discovered that all the Bosche box contained was, the plastic case, and a few parts for the plane he hadn’t returned. He had the tool, so I gave him the case, and accessories which went with it for Christmas, and quit worrying about him ever giving it back.

After I left Moms to go hme he had a temper tantrum about me being an azzhat, for doing it. The big sisters sat him down and had a talk with him.

He hasn’t just taken my things since.
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #238  
I once loaned my CUT to an employee under condition he trailered it.
Weeks later after pleading for its return I heard a screaming tractor and gear meshing as he was driving it back.
He was immediately on the black list.
Same guy would fill his tool bag B4 days end and also have to fill it next morning.
Nice and honest!
 
/ Would You Loan It Out? #240  
Lot's of people have a hard time saying "No". It is a good skill to learn. Some have recommended you come up with a nice lie to say no. I say flat out tell him "NO" . and make sure he understands that you are not loaning anything out to him again. it may be uncomfortable but it will be worth the discomfort.

You are lucky you got your tiller back.
 

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