Why not always use impact sockets?

/ Why not always use impact sockets? #1  

kenlip

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I needed to replace a 24mm socket. I noticed that the price of the impact version (black) and the shiny chromed version were about the same. In fact, the impact one was a few cents cheaper.

Instinct tells me that impact sockets are probably going to be stronger than regular sockets. If that is correct, is there any reason why one shouldn't always use impact sockets even if one doesn't have an impact wrench?

Why do they even bother to make 'standard' sockets?

Ken
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #2  
Usually regular sockets are cheaper and thinner. Thinner helps in tight spots
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #3  
I think the biggest thing is impact sockets are bulkier and don't always fit in the space where standard sockets will fit. Heck, I've had to turn down the end of the odd standard socket just to get it into certain places. Standard sockets are also harder than impact sockets and should last longer without wearing out (I have seen both types worn out) but of course that hardness makes them more prone to breaking when used on an impact gun.

If impact sockets fit everywhere you have a use for a socket, there's no real reason not to buy just them.
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #4  
' Normal ' sockets are usually chrome plated and purtier... most of my impact sockets are black and uglier..... Both are hard to find when you are old and rolling around on a creeper.... the creeper wheels have no problem finding them, though. :)
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #5  
Your lucky, you can use a creeper! Bob
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #6  
I do a lot of mechanicing. Cost, pretty, shiny has nothing to do with it. Durability is the reason for impact versions. Space and weight are the reasons for regular versions. Ease of maintenance is the reason for chrome.
Lastly, weight is the reason for most work being done with regular sockets. Sounds silly. Makes a lot of difference by the end of the day.
 
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I once (once!) went to PepBoys to have an oil change done, which was supposed to come w/ a tire rotation. They told me that they couldn't do the rotation because they needed a 'special tool' to get at the lug nuts on the wheels on my truck. I asked 'what special too?', and the 'mechanic' in the bay shows me how his HD impact socket (the wall of the socket had to be at least a 1/4" thick) doesn't fit in the hole in the wheel. I said to try a 'normal' impact socket, to which he replies he doesn't have one. ??? I went over to the tool aisle, grabbed a standard 17mm impact socket (which fit fine), handed it to him, and made them rotate the tires...
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #8  
Impacts are usually 6 points and regulars are often 12 point (I think).
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #9  
Make up of the sockets is different too. The manual sockets are usually a chrome vanadium or something similar and the impact sockets are just hardened steel. The manual sockets are hardened to last on a manual application and can shatter when used on an impact. I do use them on occasion with my Milwaukee impact but have also shattered them. I've never broken an impact socket.
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #11  
IIRC there are thin walled impact socket available.
Found them on HD site while window shopping. They were not in stock but order items.
Not as think as the shiny ones but a compromise to reduce tool inventory.
Takes a bit more reading to find the description that ID's them as such.
Sorry don't have link.
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #12  
I have a complete set of 1/2 inch impact sockets. Cracked one of my nice chrome plated ProTo sockets using it with my impact tool.
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #13  
Impact sockets have thicker walls which can be a problem in tight areas. Also, quality impact sockets also only come in 6 point (as a general rule) whereas 12 point chrome is often very helpful.

So, it depends on your use. If clearance and 6/12 pint doesn't bother you, go for it.
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #14  
I have a complete set of 1/2 inch impact sockets. Cracked one of my nice chrome plated ProTo sockets using it with my impact tool.

No warranty? These days it seems many tools come with a "lifetime warranty".
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #15  
Your lucky, you can use a creeper! Bob

I have no problem using the creeper... It is getting down and on it, then trying to get up and back off that is the problem... :) Just a boot my sockets are 6 point, I learned to buy them the hard way many many years ago....
 
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I have 6 point impact, 6 point chromies, 12 point chromies in 3/8", 1/2" and 3/4". Also have 1" drive chromies but no impact.

A well equipped mechanic will have a couple year's wages of tools in his boxes.
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #17  
I have a set each of metric and imperial deep ITC 1/2" drive impact sockets up to 1" They are my goto sockets for the most part. Biggest thing I hate is the poor size markings, sometimes requiring three trips back to the tool chest.
 
/ Why not always use impact sockets? #18  
I have no problem using the creeper... It is getting down and on it, then trying to get up and back off that is the problem... :) Just a boot my sockets are 6 point, I learned to buy them the hard way many many years ago....

Chit.....between getting down and up and looking for my glasses, I hardly get anything done anymore.:muttering: I gave the creeper away.....i can slide under and out better without it, and don't have to fight the wheels especially when wrenching a tight nut. got more clearance too.
 
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I just throw an old bed sheet on the ground most of the time.
 

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