Why no new reviews?

   / Why no new reviews? #11  
kentrodngun said:
Another good use for that FEL :D

kentrodngun:

I was thinking of starting a new thread under the Projects Forum :D! Jay
 
   / Why no new reviews? #12  
I wrote an attachment review of the BB720 last summer. It was never posted. Either the admins are too busy to bother with reviews or there's a glitch that's blocking the submittals.

I've got some hours on my machines now and know more about their strengths/weaknesses than when they were new. Wouldn't mind writing some reviews if I knew they weren't heading into a black hole. The reviews that are posted have been useful to me.
Bob
 
   / Why no new reviews? #13  
Maybe they are "selective" reviews. If you write one badmouthing a Deere, it weeds it out, but if you speak highly of a New Holland, maybe it works:confused: Just kidding, I don't have a clue.
 
   / Why no new reviews? #14  
I took the time to write up a review of my JD 3320, went all the way through the process, and tried to post it. Internal server error. I wrote to the forum admins about it, and never heard a word. It's broken, pure and simple.
 
   / Why no new reviews? #15  
I tried posting a review and on top of the fact that it stops with year model 2005, but that it also comes back "server error", it just did not happen. I am sure the site supporters and manufacturers which are paying for banner space on this board absolutley LOVE the fact that users of their equipment cant even post an up to date review of the product! :confused:
 
   / Why no new reviews? #16  
I was one of the last to post a review that made it to the board. That was last spring as I recall. Even then the review was not posted for a couple of weeks as I recall. I personally think TBN has abandoned the review section. It's been even longer since anyone successfully posted a review on an implement.
 
   / Why no new reviews? #17  
The Admins ARE being rather quiet about this.....hmmmm. Maybe we need to start hatching conspiracy theories to smoke 'em out.

The freedom to bash my tractor on the Internet is guaranteed by the Constitution, right?
Bob :)
 
   / Why no new reviews? #18  
Bob_Young said:
The Admins ARE being rather quiet about this.....hmmmm. Maybe we need to start hatching conspiracy theories to smoke 'em out.
:)

Just post a few links to other internet tractor discussion groups.:eek: That'll rouse'm.
 
   / Why no new reviews? #19  
RoyJackson said:
I just checked out the tractor/equipment review link. There hasn't been any reviews since late Spring/early Summer of 2006.
Roy, honestly I think 90% of the reviews that I looked over were worthless. It strikes me that a review of a tractor should be made AFTER the tractor has some hours on it AND it should be made with some comparision to other tractors so there is a frame of reference. Many of the reviews basically are from owners of their first tractor and many of the reveiws are written before the tractor's 50 hour service. Consequently most of the reviews are gushing compliments from people who just bought their first tractor and think it is the best thing to come along since the invention of sliced bread.

Personally, I think reviews are more helpful when various models of one brand are compared, or when various tractors of different brands are compared and there is some critical analysis of the features, designs, etc. and they are best presented by experienced users who have operated multiple machines over a period of time.

I don't mean to offend anyone with this post, its just my opinion.
 
   / Why no new reviews? #20  
Bob, there is not the slightest doubt that the tractor reviews suffer from a selection bias (people who are either thrilled or infuriated by their new purchase are more likely to post than neutral observers with a balanced pro/con perspective) and as you correctly point out, that the reviews are mostly done by new owners. Those factors undermine the usefulness of that section. However, so long as one appreciates these biases and limitations, it is useful to allow new owners to indicate whether their new purchase met their expectations and if not why not. It allows potential buyers to become aware of some factors that might not be at the front of the line in their purchasing decisions as influenced only by sales people and marketing literature.

While it would undoubtedly be better to have some experienced owners available for extended on line chats with prospective buyers, that would likely get old soon for the long term owners. The available alternative is for a prospective buyer to post a "what do you think of the following tractor" type post in the Buying/Pricing/Comparisons section. Having read hundreds of those posts I come away thinking that the answers invariably seem to 1) promote the responders own or favorite tractor, 2) denigrate some other choice for sometimes good and sometimes just picky or obscure rationales, 3) are likely superficial "you gotta try out the new suspension seat on model X", 4) devolve into how much horsepower or what frame size arguments amongst the different responders to the initial post, 5) a variety of other off topic discussions are generated and 6) the poor initial poster probably never got the full answer to his/her question. Sifting through reviews at least permits the reader to see someones uninterupted summary of their initial experience.

I think the review section could be much better than it is now. If more people, like yourself, posted updates on their own personal tractor periodically in an experienced user review section, you could at least overcome the newbie review bias. It would also give a longer term perspective on life with your tractor and be more like the car magazines that do extended drive tests with periodic reports. How about a 1 year of ownership minimum prior to posting in a new section called "Long term reviews"? The standard would be that only owners who had a year of experience on the tractor in question (or perhaps 100 or 200 hours) would have their posts accepted.

That the review section is less useful than it should be is not something I would disagree with but I do think there is a place on TBN for a compendium of thoughtful longer term owner reviews that openly discuss the pros and cons of various tractors.
 

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