Why do people not want to work?

[Shaneard]

My lady friend told me, the day I met her that she was going to quit smoking. That was over ten years ago. SHE just can't do it. I feel bad for her, and her almost certain unpleasant future or lack thereof.

One of my good friends smoked, drank and did drugs but has been sober and clean for 15 years. He said of the 3, smoking was the hardest to quit.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

OH, please. You're miles away from having even a word to apologize for.

Sometimes craziness doesn't last for a whole page, .. and then sometimes it does. :laughing: (does this count?)

btw, :welcome: to TBN and our forum. Your obvious manners are welcome, and I'm sure you'll feel comfortable here in short time. We're not done flaming losers and druggies in this one, so stay and watch for a while.

Keep in mind, no matter how compelling or interesting the original post may be, as it drags on for several pages, it's bound to stimulate some interesting side issues. I personally would rather see some side issues discussed rather than see the thread die a boring death. Also, I second the motion that you not take it personal and hang around for awhile, but keep in mind that sometimes constructive criticism, no matter how well intentioned, will be interpreted as "hall monitoring" and will elicit instant rebuttals, often sans diplomacy.

 

[Shaneard]

My wife went to Texas this morning on business for her other job. I took off from my 40 hour job to work in our store and keep our kids. So far this morning I have been ask numerous times "you off today?" to which I reply "if I were off I wouldn't be working in here". The other one that gets me is "she got you baby sitting today?" to which I reply "no, they're mine, baby sitters get paid to watch kids".

 

[ovrszd]

I guess it might have touched a nerve.
I'll retire to my corner.
My apologies.

No apology necessary.

What is your contribution to the topic of the thread? We're all listening.

 

[Shaneard]

Seeing these every where.

 

[prof fate]

Life's reality today:

Close friend has 3 kids, 11, 5 and 1. Living with her BF, 6 year relationship. He's an HVAC tech, making $60k a year. She says they plan to marry - did have a wedding all set and her mom died the tuesday of the week of the wedding, so they postponed..3 years go by and still not married. Yeah, we all have live get in the way.

REALITY - as a 'single mom' with 3 kids (and active in PTA, working part time) her income is low enough she gets gov't assistance, free medical for her and the kids. VS getting married and having to pay $300/ month for family health coverage thur his employer. and have copays and deductibles which don't existg with state paid healthcare.

He feels ill (age 33) on a friday, go to the ER saturday morning, his organs shut down and by sunday he's dead.

OK - so now what does she do? NOT married means his employer life insurance doesn't go to her. Like most today, no savings to speak of. His rented house..HIS house, so she has to move back in with her elderly (62) father. It costs more to feed the kids than 'welfare' will pay - clothes, schooling, car payment, etc. With a baby and a kindergartner how is she supposed to hold a job? Daycare for 2 kids is $1000/month here..less if you find some unlicensid nice old lady down the street to do it.

LOTS and LOTS of people live under such conditions.

ONe of the managers at work, 66 and still working, so is her husband. They have a 35 year old disabled son and refuse to give up on him, let the state pay for things - but they can't live forever.

ON and on - a million stories in the big city...

So consensus seem to be...we should stop enabling people to be on government cheese. Force them to be productive.

Maybe we need welfare reform again and only give welfare to parents with children. Also make welfare only available for 6 months if a person suffers a life changing event.

 

[prof fate]

Seeing these every where.
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me too - and I have an 18 year old son just graduated HS - $10-12/hour? UNION work here pays $15. Still not enough to live on.

Maybe wages will rise...

 

[the old grind]

Schoolkids just walk out of school into a 'living wage' job with full benefits (to be fair) or they might give up because life is unfair and 'work' is too hard, or not enough jobs pay that for greeting at the door or punching register keys.

Pretty sure Mom will still do the laundry. Just drop it off with the kids so you can go job-hunting at McDonalds with free wi-fi and the whole gang there for this one.

We Boomers all got to do that, right? We can have that again if we just quit dragging our feet and go back to the fifties. The World will get in line. 'They' always do.

Kids oughta be looking at coal mine work. It'll be selling like cel-phones again any day now and mines will be hiring for the renewed increase in demand.

Not to boast, but I foresaw the impending demise of good career opportunities when they installed user-operated elevators.

btw, my driver and cook plan to get married, I bet so I'll only charge them for one room. Also bet they knew they wouldn't get a raise this decade.

 

[goeduck]

Not to boast, but I foresaw the impending demise of good career opportunities when they installed user-operated elevators.

That profession just had too many ups and downs.

 

[ultrarunner]

First jobs age 12 to 16 were all minimum wage plus I picked up side jobs doing brakes, changing out water pumps/radiators and such. Things improved when I got my driver's license.

16 year old niece teaches swim and water safety at $20 for half hour summer job... Has all certification. Her sister babysits with $40 minimum.

Work is out there