Why do people not want to work?

[Pixguy]

Nobody graduating high school should expect anything other than $8-10 an hr unless you have a skill. Don’t have one? Go learn one or expect minimum wage for your entire life.

 

[the old grind]

Anybody that's ever watched TV learns that a good work environment is where everyone stands around and cuts up, .. when they're telling stories at company meetings.

One day on a job where one has to shut up and do something is enough to discourage the most enthusiastic Millennial couch cricket. It seems the hair-band generation wrote the book on that, but ... IMO they're the worst ONLY BECAUSE we ruined them, made them that way trying to out-do what each other's kids had. That's going on to this day, and we wonder why kids don't think 'job' means 'work'.

My friend has to hire 'cashiers'. They struggle to make change ('buzz' .. "help! my customer's change is $11 and I don't have any tens." ) 'Cashier' is a job 'title' and pay level, not a strictly defined 'job description'. It doesn't mean you stand with hands in pockets when no customer is at the register, or that you can't restock bags there, or that the managers and AMs should do all the stocking when no customers are in the store at all.

Few are born with what many of us who've earned our retirement old-school would call a 'work ethic', and modern culture is not about to waste time teaching it while devoting so much of its energy on collecting our $$ 'before some other sunglasses, phone case seller, or tattoo parlor does' "Technology" (bow down, oh ye peasant masses!) touts that life should be simple and IMO that inculcates an attitude that smart people shouldn't really have to work for a living if there's a free ride only finger-snap way.

"Kanye West don't have calluses, why should I?" (I just want the Escalade and boocoo free time to cruise with my crew in it, hangin' out and partyin' brah!). I assume but cannot vet that African American youths around here aspire to the much same as the more familiar "white punks on dope", who will surely be our 'leaders of tomorrow'.

Meanwhile, it's 80^+ plus here, but break's over guys, I've slammed my three stiff ones, so I gotta get back on the NH and have my fun gettin' bug ate and scratched up trying to burn a second set of belts on my new flail mower. It's 5:15 EDT, but that means another 3 hrs of daylight and seat time. See ya around, eh?

 

[Shaneard]

Nobody graduating high school should expect anything other than $8-10 an hr unless you have a skill. Don’t have one? Go learn one or expect minimum wage for your entire life.

I have only a high school diploma, work a skilled trade with no schooling in it and make good money. Used to make almost as much after work welding for myself but after having two kids decided I can’t get that time back I would miss with them so I gave up most of my side jobs. Still have 3 welders in case I want to get back in it later on. Use the portable one to power the house when the power goes out.

 

[Professor Marvel]

Throughout my life our elected officials have been only too happy to have the voting public become more dependent on the government. They have done this by giving society more and more. Once someone is given something they rapidly become dependent on it and no longer want to provide it for themselves. The government does this by taking money in the form of taxes and giving it to others. The people that are the beneficiaries of then services and goods will vote for the representatives that are part of this system. As time has gone on the people on the receiving side has grown to a larger and larger percentage.
The democrats rely far more heavily on this tactic than the republicans but lets be real, they are running in the same direction. Seems to me that the receivers has become a larger percentage than those being taxed to pay the cost. Even dumb *** liberals ought to catch on that this will cause a financial implosion but they seem to be willing to ride it out until the country and this system is all the way dead. It's already too late and President Trump appears to have no support from hardly any of the elected representatives because they are only interested in their continued re-election and do not want to lose any credit for providing free stuff.
This has gone on for so long that such a huge number of people are on the free ride that they don't need a job to exist and are demanding and somehow getting more all the time from the government that their level of comfort is getting higher all the time with no effort on their part. Thus they won't work.
We all know it is a pretty simple concept but many pretend to not get it.

 

[Pixguy]

I have only a high school diploma, work a skilled trade with no schooling in it and make good money. Used to make almost as much after work welding for myself but after having two kids decided I can’t get that time back I would miss with them so I gave up most of my side jobs. Still have 3 welders in case I want to get back in it later on. Use the portable one to power the house when the power goes out.

You learned a skill, good for you and your family!

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Life's reality today:

Close friend has 3 kids, 11, 5 and 1. Living with her BF, 6 year relationship. He's an HVAC tech, making $60k a year. She says they plan to marry - did have a wedding all set and her mom died the tuesday of the week of the wedding, so they postponed..3 years go by and still not married. Yeah, we all have live get in the way.

REALITY - as a 'single mom' with 3 kids (and active in PTA, working part time) her income is low enough she gets gov't assistance, free medical for her and the kids. VS getting married and having to pay $300/ month for family health coverage thur his employer. and have copays and deductibles which don't existg with state paid healthcare.

He feels ill (age 33) on a friday, go to the ER saturday morning, his organs shut down and by sunday he's dead.

OK - so now what does she do? NOT married means his employer life insurance doesn't go to her. Like most today, no savings to speak of. His rented house..HIS house, so she has to move back in with her elderly (62) father. It costs more to feed the kids than 'welfare' will pay - clothes, schooling, car payment, etc. With a baby and a kindergartner how is she supposed to hold a job? Daycare for 2 kids is $1000/month here..less if you find some unlicensid nice old lady down the street to do it.

LOTS and LOTS of people live under such conditions.

ONe of the managers at work, 66 and still working, so is her husband. They have a 35 year old disabled son and refuse to give up on him, let the state pay for things - but they can't live forever.

ON and on - a million stories in the big city...

Where did the three kids come from?

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Throughout my life our elected officials have been only too happy to have the voting public become more dependent on the government. They have done this by giving society more and more. Once someone is given something they rapidly become dependent on it and no longer want to provide it for themselves. The government does this by taking money in the form of taxes and giving it to others. The people that are the beneficiaries of then services and goods will vote for the representatives that are part of this system. As time has gone on the people on the receiving side has grown to a larger and larger percentage.
The democrats rely far more heavily on this tactic than the republicans but lets be real, they are running in the same direction. Seems to me that the receivers has become a larger percentage than those being taxed to pay the cost. Even dumb *** liberals ought to catch on that this will cause a financial implosion but they seem to be willing to ride it out until the country and this system is all the way dead. It's already too late and President Trump appears to have no support from hardly any of the elected representatives because they are only interested in their continued re-election and do not want to lose any credit for providing free stuff.
This has gone on for so long that such a huge number of people are on the free ride that they don't need a job to exist and are demanding and somehow getting more all the time from the government that their level of comfort is getting higher all the time with no effort on their part. Thus they won't work.
We all know it is a pretty simple concept but many pretend to not get it.

You've been drinking at the koolaid fountain too long. Try putting away the tribalism and read the facts.
Most & Least Federally Dependent States

 

[two_bit_score]

me too - and I have an 18 year old son just graduated HS - $10-12/hour? UNION work here pays $15. Still not enough to live on.

Maybe wages will rise...

Some convenience stores in Texas pay $16.50 to start. But if you expect the lowest tier of employment to EVER pay enough for even one person to live on you must not understand reality.

Plenty employers who will pay for an honest, dedicated employee who will consistently show up on time with a smile and work all of their shift, do a little more than expected and look for opportunities to help the employer and the business excel. This people will move up quickly and might even be running their own successful businesses someday.


TBS

 

[two_bit_score]

me too - and I have an 18 year old son just graduated HS - $10-12/hour? UNION work here pays $15. Still not enough to live on.

Maybe wages will rise...

The depressing thing I get when reading this post is that you may be conveying that same attitude to your son.




TBS

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Some convenience stores in Texas pay $16.50 to start. But if you expect the lowest tier of employment to EVER pay enough for even one person to live on you must not understand reality.

Plenty employers who will pay for an honest, dedicated employee who will consistently show up on time with a smile and work all of their shift, do a little more than expected and look for opportunities to help the employer and the business excel. This people will move up quickly and might even be running their own successful businesses someday.


TBS

You are correct, but consider this; Most people can't pass a drug test for most of these jobs. Ask any business that is hiring, it is epidemic.