What size trailer for L45?

Onederdog · Oct 5, 2012

I'm getting an L45 TLB and would like to get a trailer that I can haul it and maybe an attachment or two. Maybe the machine and my 6' box scraper, or maybe my machine and 84" rear blade. Is it illegal to put something on a trailer if it hangs over the sides as long as it is still less then 8' across. What are you guys using to haul?
I've been looking online at a 14k deckover bumper pull, or maybe a 14k equipment hauler but most of these I see are only 83" wide.

94BULLITT · Oct 5, 2012

I think you are on the right track with a 14k trailer. Get brakes on both axles. Something you may also want to consider are LED lights. LED lights are more reliable and draw less amperage. If you are worried about your blade hanging over angle it so it won't. I am not that big of a fan of a deck over unless you need a trailer that wide because of the higher center of gravity. Something like this but longer should do the job. It is 80" wide, your blade set straight would only hang over 2" and would not be out past the fenders so I think you would be okay.

TBarD · Oct 5, 2012

I went through the same thing for a M59 which is not that much different than an L45. Definitely a 14K trailer with brakes on both axles and frame members at 16" on center under the deck. In my case I got a 22' trailer but 24' would have been better - if carrying any attachments it can be hard to get the lowered backhoe on the deck. I did not get the deckover as I did not want the extra height, but I did get removable rails. That way 84" attachments can be on the deck with the rails removed, or one can have the rails to help hold cargo. If getting a new trailer be sure to adjust the brakes; mine were almost useless on the new trailer until I adjusted them.

Onederdog · Oct 5, 2012

Thanks, I stopped at the Kubota dealer tonight and took a bunch of measurements, and I think I will be able to get by with a 20', 14k equipment trailer. The L45 overall is about 20' 2" with the boom up in carry position. Looks like my offset mower shouldn't hang over any further then the trailer fenders. I think the regular equipment trailer will work out better then the deckover (thanks again for the input). From the loader bucket to the front tire is 54 inches which will be fine for the tiller, box scraper, or the rear blade should just barely fit. That's a nice trailer on that link you sent, wish I could find something like that around here, especially at that price.

dstig1 · Oct 6, 2012

If you think you will be able to "get away" with 20', then you need 22' or 24'. You need the extra room for both the unexpected and the ability to adjust the load to balance the tongue weight properly. Don't go short or you will hate life for a long time...until you upgrade. For what you are towing, 14k would be wise.

AStanton · Oct 6, 2012

My neighbor has a 18-ft Big Tex Trailer with the reinforced ramps that he uses for his L-35 TBL. With nothing else to carry, it works fine for him. You probably know about the DOT paperwork for stuff over 10-tons. Here is a pic of the trailer he loaned me to move my BX25.

Onederdog · Oct 6, 2012

I was originally thinking of going with a 22' but didn't want to take up any more space in the yard then necessary. You bring up a good point about the ability to shift the load, I might have to reconsider on the 20'.
I'm not familiar with the DOT stuff, is this for 20,000 total weight or trailer weight? It probably changes from state to state right?

avc8130 · Oct 6, 2012

Space in the yard? By the time you put a 20' trailer there, a 22 or 24 wouldn't have really mattered.

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TBarD · Oct 6, 2012

Here is a similar sized tractor on a 22' trailer... I also recommend going a bit longer than 20'.

94BULLITT · Oct 6, 2012

Onederdog said:
I was originally thinking of going with a 22' but didn't want to take up any more space in the yard then necessary. You bring up a good point about the ability to shift the load, I might have to reconsider on the 20'.
I'm not familiar with the DOT stuff, is this for 20,000 total weight or trailer weight? It probably changes from state to state right?

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If they are not local you and the price is right you could have it shipped to you.

I would not rule out a good used one.

MarkV · Oct 6, 2012

Keep in mind that DOT rules call for the backhoe bucket to be on the deck and chained. That does not seem to be enforced much for non commercial users in my area. Have no idea how they are in your area. I have a 20' trailer for my L39 and wish I had a 24'.

MarkV

crazyal · Oct 6, 2012

Around here your bucket does not need to be on the deck but anything like the FEL or backhoe needs to be secured so it can't swing or extend. My full size Case has locks built into it to do this. I like to put the BH bucket on the deck because it's much lower in over all height. Not something to worry about when on a highway but driveways may have low hanging branches or wires that you don't want to be taking out.

MarkV · Oct 6, 2012

crazyal said:
Around here your bucket does not need to be on the deck but anything like the FEL or backhoe needs to be secured so it can't swing or extend. My full size Case has locks built into it to do this. I like to put the BH bucket on the deck because it's much lower in over all height. Not something to worry about when on a highway but driveways may have low hanging branches or wires that you don't want to be taking out.

You are right, my mistake. Here is link related to the issue. Interpretation for 393.130: - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

Thanks, MarkV

94BULLITT · Oct 6, 2012

MarkV said:
You are right, my mistake. Here is link related to the issue. Interpretation for 393.130: - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

Thanks, MarkV

So according to the link you provided even the bucket on the loader needs to be secured?

Onederdog · Oct 6, 2012

Well, the big decision has been made. We drove up to the local PJ dealer and got a 2013 22' split tilt deck. They call it at 22' but actually the tilt portion is 17' and there is a 6' stationary section in the front which will work out nice for hauling a couple of extra attachments. We picked it up on kind of a trail basis to make sure we can get in and out of our driveway because we have about a 3' gradual incline up to the main road, and these trailers sit very low to the ground. The dealer said it would be no problem to swap in out for a deckover should we need to. I just pulled the rig out in the pasture when we got home so tomorrow I'll post some picts. I guess now I need to check out some chains and binders.
I really appreciate all the input you guys had to offer. Thanks,

94BULLITT · Oct 6, 2012

Sounds like a nice trailer. I would like to eventually get a trailer like that. I know you just got it but do you think a car that sits low would go on it?

crazyal · Oct 7, 2012

Lowes has some US made 5/16" GR70 chain for a real good price.

94BULLITT · Oct 7, 2012

crazyal said:
Lowes has some US made 5/16" GR70 chain for a real good price.

That's were I got mine, the bag with 20' or 25' tsc was twice as much.

Kytractor · Oct 7, 2012

I had two PJ trailers and liked them a lot. I have a 20' spilt tilt Big tex with 4ft stationary for my L45 now. Several times I have wished I had the 22' ft with a 6ft stationary and will probably sell this one and get one later. Sounds like you made the right choice.

Ace3 · Oct 7, 2012

I was able to pick up a used 2011 Cam Superline 12K GVW tilt deck to haul my L3540 Cab. So far its working out great. I really like not having to deal with ramps anymore!