Welded grab hooks

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Finished welding the hooks on the loader yesterday. Had to add channel to mount hooks on. Dual loader uses a pipe at top of bucket. I think they'll hold.
 

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Looks pretty darn good to me; wish I had done ours like that.
 
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Be careful when you use those hooks placed outside of the loader's arms. A heavy load will make the tractor quite tippy even with good ballast.
 
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The welds on the hooks look really good!:thumbsup:
But in the second picture I would put a little more fill in that crater at the heel of the C-channel.;)
 
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Be careful when you use those hooks placed outside of the loader's arms. A heavy load will make the tractor quite tippy even with good ballast.
Seemed like the best place to put them. The bucket design is different to what I have normally seen with the pipe at the top. I was going to use angle iron, but didn't have anything heavy enough.
 
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The welds on the hooks look really good!:thumbsup:
But in the second picture I would put a little more fill in that crater at the heel of the C-channel.;)

I need to wrap the corners going down toward the bottom of the bucket. I hit some paint at the finish of that bead had to grind out some pin holes. Will tie it altogether on the weld on the short corner of the channel.
 
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What kind of equipment are you using? Machine brand, model, wire, and gas?
 
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A spatter shoot'n Hobart Beta mig 250. I picked it up with my student discount when I graduated from Hobart Welding school. It runs well, but the arc is unstable in the upper settings produces alought of spatter. It's 90's technology!
Running Hobart .035 with 75/25. I've been real happy with Hobart's solid welding wire. I welded some rusty material last summer with a Weldstar brand wire. Went back to Hobart what a difference. The weldstar was American made. Hated to go back to chinese stuff, but what a difference!
 
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In the second picture the weld on the right all most looks like the wire speed could be turned up a bit. Or maybe your hand was in a bind working towards the corner.

When Mig welding I have a personal policy of running as hot as I can handle it. Out of the hundreds of welding tests I've taken, one of the very few I failed was a vertical up with Mig. It was beautiful! But when the coupons were bent, (side bend) it had too many flaws to pass code. I ran it too cold.
These pictures are of Lincoln's L-56 wire with C25 gas, and a 46-year old CC engine drive.
 

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In the second picture the weld on the right all most looks like the wire speed could be turned up a bit. Or maybe your hand was in a bind working towards the corner.

When Mig welding I have a personal policy of running as hot as I can handle it. Out of the hundreds of welding tests I've taken, one of the very few I failed was a vertical up with Mig. It was beautiful! But when the coupons were bent, (side bend) it had too many flaws to pass code. I ran it too cold.
These pictures are of Lincoln's L-56 wire with C25 gas, and a 46-year old CC engine drive.

Looks almost like a spray transfer. I think we used straight argon and cranked the welder up. Made some pretty beads!
 
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No, like I said. I like to run hot!:D

Here is some spray I did with .035 L-56 wire, 90/10 gas, and my Lincoln V350-Pro.
 

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It's only metal, you still can.
I like that attitude!:thumbsup: When working with metal it is so easy to change if you so desire. It's that God awful wood that's so hard to work with if you change your mind. :laughing:
 
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Cool! That was going to be my next project. Now I'll have the input of a lot of people much smarter than I. (I'm still better-looking).

My plan is to weld the hooks to some 3/16" or 1/4" angle iron - several inches long - and weld the hook-angle assemblies to the bucket. I figure that the welds will hold better if they're several inches long than if I were to weld the hooks directly to the bucket.

I'm new to wire feed welding. What diameter flux-core wire should I use? I have .030.
 
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A spatter shoot'n Hobart Beta mig 250. I picked it up with my student discount when I graduated from Hobart Welding school. It runs well, but the arc is unstable in the upper settings produces alought of spatter. It's 90's technology!
Running Hobart .035 with 75/25. I've been real happy with Hobart's solid welding wire. I welded some rusty material last summer with a Weldstar brand wire. Went back to Hobart what a difference. The weldstar was American made. Hated to go back to chinese stuff, but what a difference!

Well they look great. I'm a rookie with a Millermatic 180. sometimes I say "not bad" and then I have my share of Chicken s--t. What heat/speed settings would you be using on those hooks??-very typical application-

By the way, on the subject of bucket hooks, I'm a fan of one in the middle. When I bought my first CUT (755 Deere) took my bucket to local welder. Great old boy WWII SeaBee and then worked as a factory guy for Koehring-traveling the world trouble shooting (Koehring made big cable shovels, cranes and then got into hydraulic machines before they disappered). In any case, I bought two weld ons with me, he shook his head and said.."one in the middle, never have to worry then about a lopsided hook up".
 
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Well they look great. I'm a rookie with a Millermatic 180. sometimes I say "not bad" and then I have my share of Chicken s--t. What heat/speed settings would you be using on those hooks??-very typical application-

By the way, on the subject of bucket hooks, I'm a fan of one in the middle. When I bought my first CUT (755 Deere) took my bucket to local welder. Great old boy WWII SeaBee and then worked as a factory guy for Koehring-traveling the world trouble shooting (Koehring made big cable shovels, cranes and then got into hydraulic machines before they disappered). In any case, I bought two weld ons with me, he shook his head and said.."one in the middle, never have to worry then about a lopsided hook up".

I have 3 hooks on my bucket, but I try to never use the ones on the sides for loads. I just use them to carry the slack in the chain 99.9 % of the time.
Here is a very good calculator, you should book mark it.

Miller - MIG Welding Calculator
 
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I have 3 hooks on my bucket, but I try to never use the ones on the sides for loads. I just use them to carry the slack in the chain 99.9 % of the time.
Here is a very good calculator, you should book mark it.

Miller - MIG Welding Calculator

thx-good use for those outside hooks-and thx for the guide.
 
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Our 210 has a nice chart when you flip up side panel to change out wire spools, will give you a good general idea, common sense from there.
 

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