"V1. . .Rotate!"

jinman · Mar 27, 2008

gordon21 said:
Mark: Were you the pilot or a passenger????

When an airplane stalls, everyone is a passenger.

mjarrels · Mar 27, 2008

Passinger... Jet shook violently for a few seconds... seemed like hours!

mark

Steve_Miller · Mar 27, 2008

jinman said:
Let's go flyin'.

The building in question, does this view allow light to be seen through like it is shown? As far as the lighting goes, when was the picture taken, daytime, dusk, etc. When did the rain hit, before or after the photo? Was there flood lighting on at the time of the photo? Was it taken with a cell phone camera, a good trigger finger if so. I'll take it as a valid photo until someone states a lot more details about it.

Thanks for the photo,
Steve

gordon21 · Mar 27, 2008

Quote; When an airplane stalls, everyone is a passenger.
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No problem. Just let go of the yoke back pressure and everything will be fine in 2 seconds. Oh wait, that's a 172 where that happens..........

I guess mark was in something bigger than a 172.

Jinman, you are so right and so eloquent with your quote.

Is anyone going to Sun-n-fun in 2 weeks?? I can't make it this year. I would gladly send someone the money for a 2008 t-shirt and a prepaid padded bag mailing envelope if you could grab me one.

MossRoad · Mar 27, 2008

jinman said:
When an airplane stalls, everyone is a passenger.

That's the one and only thing that bugs me about flying... falling.

mjarrels · Apr 12, 2008

Rare sight the past few days... An American Airlines jet actually taking off!

mark

jinman · Apr 13, 2008

One day last week, I counted 25 MD80s lined up on the west taxiway at DFW airport. It looked like an airplane graveyard. By the end of the week, it was down to 5 and probably all are complete now. I heard there were over 110 planes involved in this inspection, but I only saw 25 close to my route out of the airport at night.

ray66v · Apr 13, 2008

Steve_Miller said:
I'll take it as a valid photo until someone states a lot more details about it.
Thanks for the photo,
Steve

The aircraft taking off, is suspiciously close to the terminal, (first clue). This aircraft does not appear to be on a proper runway for an aircraft of this size, Commercial runways are commonly hundreds of feet wide. (second clue). Save the photo, and zoom in on the wheels of the departing aircraft. The wheels are not on pavement, there is grass there. Including a runway marker which is directly below the left wing. Note the markers in the foreground for reference as to what they look like. An aircraft this size, taking off, would be no where near a runway marker. (third and final clue).
Photoshop fake, and not a very good one.

jinman · Apr 13, 2008

ray66v said:
The aircraft taking off, is suspiciously close to the terminal, (first clue). This aircraft does not appear to be on a proper runway for an aircraft of this size, Commercial runways are commonly hundreds of feet wide. (second clue). Save the photo, and zoom in on the wheels of the departing aircraft. The wheels are not on pavement, there is grass there. Including a runway marker which is directly below the left wing. Note the markers in the foreground for reference as to what they look like. An aircraft this size, taking off, would be no where near a runway marker. (third and final clue).
Photoshop fake, and not a very good one.

Just for the sake of argument. . .

What makes you think the airplane is touching the ground at all? Why couldn't it be about 25' in the air and much closer than you first think when looking at the picture? I titled this "V1-Rotate," but I think that plane is approaching 35' and about to go "gear up." The fuselage is as well lighted as the closer runways/taxiways are. I don't think it is near the terminal at all. I think somebody was using a camera from a distance and cropped this section out for its impact. When you are close to the ground and looking across a flat airport, depth perception will play tricks on you.

This may well be a fake, but when I look at it, I surely see it different than you see it.

ray66v · Apr 14, 2008

Ok, consider this: If the airplane has just taken off, it is not parallel to any of the concrete shown in the photo, it is at about a 45 degree angle. The runway it used would be aligned with the plane, from a "normal" perspective, and should be visible behind it, but is not. Therefore, there is some distortion by the camera used in the photo. A wide angle lens would bend the perspective so the lines of the runway are not where they should be. If the distorted runway was visible, at the bottom of the photo, it would appear to be an arc, with the portion below the plane aligned with it.
The problem is, the lens would have also bent the lines on the terminal, and they are straight. So are the row of lights behind the terminal.