Underpowered 3130 back from dealer....
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If you hate, sell it. In my area used tractors are extremely hard to come by, especially CUT's. Put the thing in the paper, price it right and it will get sold. A bit of advice for your next machinery purchase; there is a wealth of info to be had here and other places, take the time to do your homework next time and avoid disappointment. I spent months researching my purchase, drove numerous models and most important, located the right dealer. Good luck.
frank_f15
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do u mind sharing what you hate about it? is it just the tractor is too small for your needs? or is there something in particular you don't like about it.
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On your 28.5 quickie review you stated that the power was adequate after learning how to properly operate the HST. Since that time all of your posts have degraded the tractor. Is this a case of major buyers remorse, the price you paid for the tractor or the dealer? I am sure that the tractor has many positive attributes, but with the attitude that you have towards the unit, I do not think that you will ever be satisfied with it. Sell or trade it, everyone will be happier. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
JerryG
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From reading all of your posts, the best thing to do, if you aren't going to get rid of it is to learn how to operate it correctly.
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Ramon. I see you're fairly new here. Fill out your user profile and you may get some better help or assistance. Otherwise, you could be taken for someone with other than sincere intentions. I don't suggest that's the case but that's the just simply reality, more information get's you taken more seriously, particularily if you're complaining.
OK, I think my 3130 is underpowered too. Additionally, it's new and has an issue or two for the dealer to address which I'm confident will be resolved. However, I genuinely like mine and have no remorse over the purchase. If someone who is in purchasing mode asks my opinion on the 3130 power, I tell them to move up in power (knowing what I do now) but I don't wring my hands over mine being perhaps a little short there . I can't help but feeling I/we are missing something here???
OK, I think my 3130 is underpowered too. Additionally, it's new and has an issue or two for the dealer to address which I'm confident will be resolved. However, I genuinely like mine and have no remorse over the purchase. If someone who is in purchasing mode asks my opinion on the 3130 power, I tell them to move up in power (knowing what I do now) but I don't wring my hands over mine being perhaps a little short there . I can't help but feeling I/we are missing something here???
frank_f15
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( OK, I think my 3130 is underpowered too )</font>
i sometimes feel my B2400 is underpowerd also, but you what? is has just enough power to do do what that size tractor was designed to do. i sometimes think we expect more from our machines than they are capable of doing. this of course is just MHO /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
i sometimes feel my B2400 is underpowerd also, but you what? is has just enough power to do do what that size tractor was designed to do. i sometimes think we expect more from our machines than they are capable of doing. this of course is just MHO /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
OK! here goes: tractor will not go up an incline at various times, mainly during turns when the newly designed power steering is pulling on HST. Babying the tractor in low gear and creeping along at a dismal .1 mph is pathetic. The exhaust pipe blows black fumes and soot all over the FEL and gets inside the cab. The backhoe 4690 should be recalled "boomlocking PIN" falls out with the slightest of load. Someone could get hurt if the hydraulic hose breaks. Kubota Reps are in denial and remind me of the Dan Rather/Bush episode. Other than these items the tractor is similar to a b2400 ONLY THE B2400 is stronger.
Dumdog your loyalty is honorable! Yes! I gave the tractor more time with the thought that possibly it was the operator and not the tractor. I agree the posts have been honest and informative without any bias. I call em as I see em. I have a underpowered tractor and I'm not happy. I want to share my mistakes and misfortune with all, especially the NEWBIE. If only the dealer told me demo's were available or come to my property this would of been avoided. Paying a few more dollars for a 3830 was never an issue. All things being equal, the tractor is underpowered, and has some Quality control issues along with poor design, especially the dumb seat switch have you taped yours yet, truthfully now!!!!
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Only have about a half hour on it checking it out. In the process of looking at something and leaned forward the tractor died out. This must be the switch. Guess I will learn to live with it. But time will tell.
Junkman
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A friend just got a L48 and the seat also has the safety switch under it. I kept stalling the tractor leaning forward to see where I was going. I don't like the safety switch and would remove it if it were my tractor. The only good thing about that switch is that if you roll your tractor over, and you come off the seat just a bit, the engine will stall and not be damaged. Other than that, I can not find any reasonable reason to keep that switch in place. It would drive me crazy if I had to live with that alone, forgetting about the lack of power that you are experiencing. If the tractor has low hours, possibly the dealer will take it back and sell you another tractor that is more to your liking???? It doesn't hurt to ask... Junk...
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<font color="blue"> The exhaust pipe blows black fumes and soot all over the FEL and gets inside the cab. </font>
I did not think there was a cab option on the 3130... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
<font color="blue"> Other than these items the tractor is similar to a b2400 ONLY THE B2400 is stronger.
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I doubt the B2400 is stronger. More hp/lb, or course...but there is considerable size difference between the two tractors and overall your 3130 will be the harder worker. Might not get to the mountain top the fastest, but it will drag a lot more up each time... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I did not think there was a cab option on the 3130... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
<font color="blue"> Other than these items the tractor is similar to a b2400 ONLY THE B2400 is stronger.
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I doubt the B2400 is stronger. More hp/lb, or course...but there is considerable size difference between the two tractors and overall your 3130 will be the harder worker. Might not get to the mountain top the fastest, but it will drag a lot more up each time... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
CURTIS makes the cab, thought I mentioned that? The B2400 develops 18hp at the pto with a weight ratio that's consideralby lower making the B2400 far superior, all things considered. The seat switch has a white lever just use packing tape. Oh! it is also a magnetic interlock type. I would call it a 3way switch for safety, but imagine getting on and off the tractor to operate the backhoe?? Sort of Safety features gone awry. It may cause another unsafe condition to occur, moving tractor with the boom.
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As you mentioned, you made a mistake. I suspect either your expectations were larger or you still have a problem. Either way, if I was you and had a tractor that was as new as this, I would sell it. You would be suprised how easily a clean, warranted tractor will sell for. Advertise in California. One huge bonus is whoever buys it here will not be paying sales tax. That will make it very attractive. Keep it and be miserable or sell it and buy another brand and more HP. Your experience here is not reflected by many if any other owners of the L3130 to the degree you have experienced.
When you mention the fumes, power steering and .1 mph, this is where I suspect you have issues regardless of technique. In low, unless your tied to a tree, the tractor will easily reach 4 mph, the max speed in that range. If the engine is OK, then the HST is not.
At any rate, I wish you the best with your situation. I'm pretty sure faced with the same issues your experiencing, my dealer would really work with me to either diagnose or replace the tractor. With a unscratched, very low hour machine, (basically new) you are in a great position to do something about it right now. That's what I did. I had a L48 that after many hours of cleaning and about 200 hours was sold for near new. The fella who bought it wondered why I was asking so much ($2000 less then retail). I said because it really boils down to about $4000 less when you consider the 7.25% tax that he would pay if buying new. He agreed and thought the tractor a good deal which it was. I got a ton of work done for one year. It cost me $4000 or so to do that which was not great, but in the end, I ended up with what I needed, a L3830 HST with TnT. I suggest you consider it for your tractor.
When you mention the fumes, power steering and .1 mph, this is where I suspect you have issues regardless of technique. In low, unless your tied to a tree, the tractor will easily reach 4 mph, the max speed in that range. If the engine is OK, then the HST is not.
At any rate, I wish you the best with your situation. I'm pretty sure faced with the same issues your experiencing, my dealer would really work with me to either diagnose or replace the tractor. With a unscratched, very low hour machine, (basically new) you are in a great position to do something about it right now. That's what I did. I had a L48 that after many hours of cleaning and about 200 hours was sold for near new. The fella who bought it wondered why I was asking so much ($2000 less then retail). I said because it really boils down to about $4000 less when you consider the 7.25% tax that he would pay if buying new. He agreed and thought the tractor a good deal which it was. I got a ton of work done for one year. It cost me $4000 or so to do that which was not great, but in the end, I ended up with what I needed, a L3830 HST with TnT. I suggest you consider it for your tractor.
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I have yet to find on either on my old L48 or my current L3830 where leaning forward off the seat was ever necessary when traveling forward. I agree that if your the only user and you need to get off the seat while driving the tractor, then you could consider disconnecting the seat kill switch. Perhaps your not accustom to driving larger tractors. Drive around an industrial tractor and you will be amazed at how much more you can see on these little compacts. But even on the industrials, you quickly find where the front lip of the bucket is and what lies in front of it.
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I'll echo the other posters saying something is wrong with how you are using it or something is wrong with the tractor. It shouldn't smoke under that load at all in low range.
Tractors by nature are underpowered, the 55 hp tractor we use haying won't move it self up hills in high gear even when cruising down the road.
Try looking at these pics, this is a 3130 and your machine should be capable of doing this stuff:
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Tractors by nature are underpowered, the 55 hp tractor we use haying won't move it self up hills in high gear even when cruising down the road.
Try looking at these pics, this is a 3130 and your machine should be capable of doing this stuff:
Link
A few for example:
Pic1
Pic2
Pic3
MikePA:Fixed URL that was too long and converted inline pics, some of which were too wide and all of which were bad for people who connect with modems, to links.
JerryG
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You keep saying that it won't pull a hill and that it smokes, are you letting up on the HST pedal as the engine is pulling down?
theboman
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Any maybe just maybe he got a bad one. There's bad cars coming of assembly lines every year.
Another problem could be expectations.
I have a B7500, much smaller, and it does all I've asked, actually it does more that I hard imagined.
Maybe the dealer sold you what you wanted to pay for price wise and you wanted $5,000 more worth of tractor.
Going up the hill behind the house. If I have nothing on the back (except the carryall) 4X4 high does the trick, if I have my rotary cutter or tiller I must use 4X4 low.
The hydro pedal is not a gas (accelerator) pedal. The throttle is on the dash.
Maybe the dealer sold you what you asked for price wise but expected $5000 more tractor.
Another problem could be expectations.
I have a B7500, much smaller, and it does all I've asked, actually it does more that I hard imagined.
Maybe the dealer sold you what you wanted to pay for price wise and you wanted $5,000 more worth of tractor.
Going up the hill behind the house. If I have nothing on the back (except the carryall) 4X4 high does the trick, if I have my rotary cutter or tiller I must use 4X4 low.
The hydro pedal is not a gas (accelerator) pedal. The throttle is on the dash.
Maybe the dealer sold you what you asked for price wise but expected $5000 more tractor.
