Trailer for a 4120

[KB9UDE]

I would go 2 5/16

D.

Any specific reasons Darin??

John

 

[ddivinia]

Any specific reasons Darin??

John

Never been a fan of pintle hitches. I know it is not a great reason, but oh well.

D.

 

[gunmaker]

I like the 2-5/16 ball also. It makes it much easier when switching back and forth between trailers for me. One less piece of equipment to keep track of. I always keep a receiver lock on my hitch, just to prevent someone from walking away with something or pulling a pin when I'm not looking.

 

[jgrreed]

I think you have to go 2 5/16 on a 14k trailer, no?? If there is an option, go bigger for sure. I'm not sure about a stabilizer style hitch on a flatdeck. My brother in law has one on his 30' RV and thinks it's the cat's *****. It's pain to hook up, but whatever......

I have a PJ 20' + 5' dovetail GN with 2x 7k axles. The trailer itself weighs about 5200lbs, and because it's a goose ~ 20% of the load is transferred to the truck vs. something like 5% on a bumper-pull. That makes the useful payload of mine ~ 11K lbs. It's a deckover vs. Darin's lowboy, which I think is nicer for hay, etc. It's ~100" wide. I think I paid 5200$ US for it. I do wish I had gotten a tandem dually trailer just to max out the trucks capacity for hay hauling etc, but it more that does the job right now. I'll put 10 round bales on it, max. I wouldn't get a tri-axle style. I pulled one a while back and found it didn't handle as well as the tandem, and was not as easy to back up (the tires flex a lot when you turn sharp). It was my first GN and I must say it handles WAY better than a bumper pull. The GN doesn't seem to 'push' you around as much, and doesn't 'bob'. My friends and Father-in-Law made fun of me for 'overkill' when I got it a year ago, and they've now all conceded that "it sure pulls nice", or "it sure is handy to have around!!" Next time it'll be a 25' + 5' dovetail with flipdown ramps, a toolbox, tandem dually, 2x12K axles, electric jacks (ya, I'm lazy....), and a "deck-over-neck" platform for added cargo space. I'm pretty happy with the quality of my PJ.

I think you'll be fine as long as the bumper pull you get has GOOD brakes. Make sure you get 4 good chains and boomers before you pick up your new toy!!! Length might be a bit of an issue for you too. My 4720 with FEL and Bush Hog took up almost all of my GN.

Don't get a pintle, those are for dump trucks!!! The ball is much more universal, and lockable as you mentioned. GN hitches are lockable too.

If you do go with a GN, have a look at the B&W turnover ball hitch. I've been running one now for over a year and love it. It leaves the bed of your truck totally normal when you're not using it, and there's an option for something called a companion hitch, which is a 5th wheel if you ever need it.

Sorry for the long winded message, I love to talk about my toys!!! Hope this helps you out.

-J.

 

[KB9UDE]

Thanks for the info. Yes you can get a pintle on some of the 14k trailers around here. My biggest concern would be locking it up. I know it would be easier to hook up to the truck, but also for others to do the same. I leave my equipment in places that it needs to be locked up sometimes.


John

I think you have to go 2 5/16 on a 14k trailer, no?? If there is an option, go bigger for sure. I'm not sure about a stabilizer style hitch on a flatdeck. My brother in law has one on his 30' RV and thinks it's the cat's *****. It's pain to hook up, but whatever......

I have a PJ 20' + 5' dovetail GN with 2x 7k axles. The trailer itself weighs about 5200lbs, and because it's a goose ~ 20% of the load is transferred to the truck vs. something like 5% on a bumper-pull. That makes the useful payload of mine ~ 11K lbs. It's a deckover vs. Darin's lowboy, which I think is nicer for hay, etc. It's ~100" wide. I think I paid 5200$ US for it. I do wish I had gotten a tandem dually trailer just to max out the trucks capacity for hay hauling etc, but it more that does the job right now. I'll put 10 round bales on it, max. I wouldn't get a tri-axle style. I pulled one a while back and found it didn't handle as well as the tandem, and was not as easy to back up (the tires flex a lot when you turn sharp). It was my first GN and I must say it handles WAY better than a bumper pull. The GN doesn't seem to 'push' you around as much, and doesn't 'bob'. My friends and Father-in-Law made fun of me for 'overkill' when I got it a year ago, and they've now all conceded that "it sure pulls nice", or "it sure is handy to have around!!" Next time it'll be a 25' + 5' dovetail with flipdown ramps, a toolbox, tandem dually, 2x12K axles, electric jacks (ya, I'm lazy....), and a "deck-over-neck" platform for added cargo space. I'm pretty happy with the quality of my PJ.

I think you'll be fine as long as the bumper pull you get has GOOD brakes. Make sure you get 4 good chains and boomers before you pick up your new toy!!! Length might be a bit of an issue for you too. My 4720 with FEL and Bush Hog took up almost all of my GN.

Don't get a pintle, those are for dump trucks!!! The ball is much more universal, and lockable as you mentioned. GN hitches are lockable too.

If you do go with a GN, have a look at the B&W turnover ball hitch. I've been running one now for over a year and love it. It leaves the bed of your truck totally normal when you're not using it, and there's an option for something called a companion hitch, which is a 5th wheel if you ever need it.

Sorry for the long winded message, I love to talk about my toys!!! Hope this helps you out.

-J.

 

[ddivinia]

I would seriously consider a gooseneck. They pull so much nicer than a bumper pull.

D.

 

[Turkeyman]

I wish my 12,000 trailer was a GN and so will you if you are ever on a rough road. There is a great amount of weight on the tongue and you feel every dip in the road. Plus, you can turn more then 160 degrees. I think my gas model 2001 2500 HD was only rated for 10,000lb on the receiver hitch. You need to check becuase in this state the HP will make you write a check if you are over.

 

[ddivinia]

That is a good point - it will beat you pretty bad at times.

Now - a bad side to the gooseneck. If you have to take that trailer thru some ugly dips - you will have to take your tailgate off to keep from tearing it up.

D.

 

[KB9UDE]

Well I did it now!! Just wait until my wife sees this. If I do not post for awhile you all will know what hapened

I bought a new 2009 20ft 14K trailer with fold up ramps. I would have gone longer but I do not haul my 4120 with the Frontier RC1073 very often and it is the longest implement I have. This is one awsome trailer.

I don't know what I was thinking when I proposed hauling this load on my 18ft 7K car hauler!! I think that would have been my last mistake.

John

 

[ddivinia]

Well I did it now!! Just wait until my wife sees this. If I do not post for awhile you all will know what hapened

I bought a new 2009 20ft 14K trailer with fold up ramps. I would have gone longer but I do not haul my 4120 with the Frontier RC1073 very often and it is the longest implement I have. This is one awsome trailer.

I don't know what I was thinking when I proposed hauling this load on my 18ft 7K car hauler!! I think that would have been my last mistake.

John

Nice job, that should work just fine. I think you would have screwed your other trailer up and who knows what else.

D.