Trailer for a 4120

[ddivinia]

Yeah - you might want to start shopping.

Do you have a gooseneck?

D.

 

[orlo]

I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even take my 3720 (Cab) on a 7000# trailer.
My 10,000 Peaque weighs 2200lbs.

My 3720 is about 3600+800lbs(loaded Tires) + 1100lbs loader frame + 350? for the bucket so I'd be over without even a ballast block.

 

[KB9UDE]

Yeah - you might want to start shopping.

Do you have a gooseneck?

D.

I do not have a gooseneck yet. I have thought about it.

The 7K trailer has a wood deck. I am looking at a 22+3 14k gooseneck right now.

John

 

[ddivinia]

I do not have a gooseneck yet. I have thought about it.

The 7K trailer has a wood deck. I am looking at a 22+3 14k gooseneck right now.

John

Cool deal. I have the Big Tex 12GP. I wanted the 14GP, but I could not wait for it to come in. It has been a good trailer. I have have it 3 yrs or so. I bought it when I got my 4720 tractor. I used it a lot.

D.

 

[ddivinia]

Here are a couple pics to help visualize things.

Big Tex 12gp 24'

Trailers, Utility, Dump, ATV, Gooseneck, Flatbed, Equipment, Bumper pull, Auto Haulers

JD 4720 with 40)X loader, frontier 48" pallet forks, JD MX-6 mower

Hauling my protein feeder out to the other place.

Sure fills a trailer in a hurry,
D.

 

[KB9UDE]

Do you all think I would need to go gooseneck or would I be ok with a 14K bumper pull on the Chevy 3/4HD 4x4 with 350 engine??

I would like a gooseneck but right now my truck would be the only one around the farm with a ball after I have to spend the money on one. I understand the benefits but is it necessary in my situation??

Hauling:
JD 4120, 400x with 73HD bucket, rotary cutter (longest and heaviest implement)

 

[gunmaker]

John, I think it's do'able with the appropriate ball hitch. I tow my 31' travel trailer (9000lbs) dual axle with brakes on a ball hitch, and the 2520 (5000lbs) on the smaller utility trailer. I think as long as you have an appropriately sized trailer, with at least dual axles to reduce tongue weight, and brakes on all axles you should be ok. The only difference between your 2500 and mine is a diesel engine. I do believe that you should also have a class V frame mounted hitch, not a bumper hitch. Best, Craig

 

[ddivinia]

Do you all think I would need to go gooseneck or would I be ok with a 14K bumper pull on the Chevy 3/4HD 4x4 with 350 engine??

I would like a gooseneck but right now my truck would be the only one around the farm with a ball after I have to spend the money on one. I understand the benefits but is it necessary in my situation??

Hauling:
JD 4120, 400x with 73HD bucket, rotary cutter (longest and heaviest implement)

You should be fine with a bumper pull. In many ways bumper pulls are nicer - you don't loose the bed space. Now, I prefer the handling, etc of gooseneck trailers.

D.

 

[KB9UDE]

I am looking into a new 14k trailer now for the 4120. Should I get the 2 5/16 ball coupler or a pintle hitch?? My feelings on a pintle that it would be easier for someone to steal???

What do you all think about this??

If I get the pintle is it possible to get a weight distro/sway bar hitch?? Or would this require a ball hitch??


John

 

[ddivinia]

I am looking into a new 14k trailer now for the 4120. Should I get the 2 5/16 ball coupler or a pintle hitch?? My feelings on a pintle that it would be easier for someone to steal???

What do you all think about this??

If I get the pintle is it possible to get a weight distro/sway bar hitch?? Or would this require a ball hitch??


John

I would go 2 5/16

D.

 

[KB9UDE]

I would go 2 5/16

D.

Any specific reasons Darin??

John

 

[ddivinia]

Any specific reasons Darin??

John

Never been a fan of pintle hitches. I know it is not a great reason, but oh well.

D.

 

[gunmaker]

I like the 2-5/16 ball also. It makes it much easier when switching back and forth between trailers for me. One less piece of equipment to keep track of. I always keep a receiver lock on my hitch, just to prevent someone from walking away with something or pulling a pin when I'm not looking.

 

[jgrreed]

I think you have to go 2 5/16 on a 14k trailer, no?? If there is an option, go bigger for sure. I'm not sure about a stabilizer style hitch on a flatdeck. My brother in law has one on his 30' RV and thinks it's the cat's *****. It's pain to hook up, but whatever......

I have a PJ 20' + 5' dovetail GN with 2x 7k axles. The trailer itself weighs about 5200lbs, and because it's a goose ~ 20% of the load is transferred to the truck vs. something like 5% on a bumper-pull. That makes the useful payload of mine ~ 11K lbs. It's a deckover vs. Darin's lowboy, which I think is nicer for hay, etc. It's ~100" wide. I think I paid 5200$ US for it. I do wish I had gotten a tandem dually trailer just to max out the trucks capacity for hay hauling etc, but it more that does the job right now. I'll put 10 round bales on it, max. I wouldn't get a tri-axle style. I pulled one a while back and found it didn't handle as well as the tandem, and was not as easy to back up (the tires flex a lot when you turn sharp). It was my first GN and I must say it handles WAY better than a bumper pull. The GN doesn't seem to 'push' you around as much, and doesn't 'bob'. My friends and Father-in-Law made fun of me for 'overkill' when I got it a year ago, and they've now all conceded that "it sure pulls nice", or "it sure is handy to have around!!" Next time it'll be a 25' + 5' dovetail with flipdown ramps, a toolbox, tandem dually, 2x12K axles, electric jacks (ya, I'm lazy....), and a "deck-over-neck" platform for added cargo space. I'm pretty happy with the quality of my PJ.

I think you'll be fine as long as the bumper pull you get has GOOD brakes. Make sure you get 4 good chains and boomers before you pick up your new toy!!! Length might be a bit of an issue for you too. My 4720 with FEL and Bush Hog took up almost all of my GN.

Don't get a pintle, those are for dump trucks!!! The ball is much more universal, and lockable as you mentioned. GN hitches are lockable too.

If you do go with a GN, have a look at the B&W turnover ball hitch. I've been running one now for over a year and love it. It leaves the bed of your truck totally normal when you're not using it, and there's an option for something called a companion hitch, which is a 5th wheel if you ever need it.

Sorry for the long winded message, I love to talk about my toys!!! Hope this helps you out.

-J.

 

[KB9UDE]

Thanks for the info. Yes you can get a pintle on some of the 14k trailers around here. My biggest concern would be locking it up. I know it would be easier to hook up to the truck, but also for others to do the same. I leave my equipment in places that it needs to be locked up sometimes.


John

I think you have to go 2 5/16 on a 14k trailer, no?? If there is an option, go bigger for sure. I'm not sure about a stabilizer style hitch on a flatdeck. My brother in law has one on his 30' RV and thinks it's the cat's *****. It's pain to hook up, but whatever......

I have a PJ 20' + 5' dovetail GN with 2x 7k axles. The trailer itself weighs about 5200lbs, and because it's a goose ~ 20% of the load is transferred to the truck vs. something like 5% on a bumper-pull. That makes the useful payload of mine ~ 11K lbs. It's a deckover vs. Darin's lowboy, which I think is nicer for hay, etc. It's ~100" wide. I think I paid 5200$ US for it. I do wish I had gotten a tandem dually trailer just to max out the trucks capacity for hay hauling etc, but it more that does the job right now. I'll put 10 round bales on it, max. I wouldn't get a tri-axle style. I pulled one a while back and found it didn't handle as well as the tandem, and was not as easy to back up (the tires flex a lot when you turn sharp). It was my first GN and I must say it handles WAY better than a bumper pull. The GN doesn't seem to 'push' you around as much, and doesn't 'bob'. My friends and Father-in-Law made fun of me for 'overkill' when I got it a year ago, and they've now all conceded that "it sure pulls nice", or "it sure is handy to have around!!" Next time it'll be a 25' + 5' dovetail with flipdown ramps, a toolbox, tandem dually, 2x12K axles, electric jacks (ya, I'm lazy....), and a "deck-over-neck" platform for added cargo space. I'm pretty happy with the quality of my PJ.

I think you'll be fine as long as the bumper pull you get has GOOD brakes. Make sure you get 4 good chains and boomers before you pick up your new toy!!! Length might be a bit of an issue for you too. My 4720 with FEL and Bush Hog took up almost all of my GN.

Don't get a pintle, those are for dump trucks!!! The ball is much more universal, and lockable as you mentioned. GN hitches are lockable too.

If you do go with a GN, have a look at the B&W turnover ball hitch. I've been running one now for over a year and love it. It leaves the bed of your truck totally normal when you're not using it, and there's an option for something called a companion hitch, which is a 5th wheel if you ever need it.

Sorry for the long winded message, I love to talk about my toys!!! Hope this helps you out.

-J.

 

[ddivinia]

I would seriously consider a gooseneck. They pull so much nicer than a bumper pull.

D.

 

[Turkeyman]

I wish my 12,000 trailer was a GN and so will you if you are ever on a rough road. There is a great amount of weight on the tongue and you feel every dip in the road. Plus, you can turn more then 160 degrees. I think my gas model 2001 2500 HD was only rated for 10,000lb on the receiver hitch. You need to check becuase in this state the HP will make you write a check if you are over.

 

[ddivinia]

That is a good point - it will beat you pretty bad at times.

Now - a bad side to the gooseneck. If you have to take that trailer thru some ugly dips - you will have to take your tailgate off to keep from tearing it up.

D.

 

[KB9UDE]

Well I did it now!! Just wait until my wife sees this. If I do not post for awhile you all will know what hapened

I bought a new 2009 20ft 14K trailer with fold up ramps. I would have gone longer but I do not haul my 4120 with the Frontier RC1073 very often and it is the longest implement I have. This is one awsome trailer.

I don't know what I was thinking when I proposed hauling this load on my 18ft 7K car hauler!! I think that would have been my last mistake.

John

 

[ddivinia]

Well I did it now!! Just wait until my wife sees this. If I do not post for awhile you all will know what hapened

I bought a new 2009 20ft 14K trailer with fold up ramps. I would have gone longer but I do not haul my 4120 with the Frontier RC1073 very often and it is the longest implement I have. This is one awsome trailer.

I don't know what I was thinking when I proposed hauling this load on my 18ft 7K car hauler!! I think that would have been my last mistake.

John

Nice job, that should work just fine. I think you would have screwed your other trailer up and who knows what else.

D.