Trading 2520 for 790

[kvjohndeere]

The 790 is a great Tractor But just doesent have all the Features A 2520 Does ! If anything Get Them to get you A new 2520 Or else ! No offense( Roy) The 790 is Awesome ! But this guy Already Paid the Money For The 17,000 dollar 2520 ! So why should he lose his Money !

 

[RoyJackson]

The 790 is a great tractor but it is a plain Jain !

Yeah, it is...that's why I like it.
No frills, just a great tool..what a real tractor should be. Why would you think we all want gussied up tractors?

And, no..Dan shouldn't lose his money...I agree with that. Maybe you should read the entire thread before responding, specifically the first page.

Dan's looking into replacing a tractor with defects. The real problem is the dealer doesn't seem to be responding. As Dan has a number of other tractors (older iron), he's not a novice...and is knowledgable enough to make a good decision.

 

[RollingsFarms]

I don't own a 790 but I do own a 1978 JD 950 and to put them side by side theyre basically the same tractor! the 950 seems to have more ground clearance, but the 790 weighs more. Both are 8x2 gear tranny's. I have no complaints about my tractor, its worked hard all its life and is still going strong. I feel the 790 will do the same. I need a good bit more hp, thats the only reason I've decided to step up to a 50hp+ tractor. I dont think you'll be the least bit dissapointed if you decide to get a 790(AKA old school 950)

 

[DAN IN OHIO]

This is what the concrete in my barn looks like after every time I use the 2520. It even leaked a similar pool on my trailer the last time I returned it for service. I hauled it in the day I scheduled an appointment to talk with the dealership owner so he could see the problem first hand and left it there dipping on their floor.

 

[unreconstructed]

I nearly went 790 when I bought the 2320--the 790 did not have a folding ROPS which was one of my deciding factors--also don't believe a mmm and 4WD combo are available with 790. The lack of gizmos still appeals to me though.

Good look with your decision--its a real @#(&* to spend so much money and the thing breaks.

 

[Chris2520]

This is what the concrete in my barn looks like after every time I use the 2520. It even leaked a similar pool on my trailer the last time I returned it for service. I hauled it in the day I scheduled an appointment to talk with the dealership owner so he could see the problem first hand and left it there dipping on their floor.

Most likely what the problem is. The axal hub has a bad place in it. and is chewing up the seal. and the dealer just keeps replaceing the seal. witch in turn get chewed up again , and starts to leak. if the dealer will just replace the whole right side spendle. your problems would be over.
So the real trouble is not a tractor problem. it is a crappy dealer issue.this should of been fixed first day in. so the dealer is where the problem is. like i said. your just going to haft to climb the ladder screeming.
til the right people start to listen. and your tractor will be fixed right.
I hope you get everything worked out soon.

Chris..

 

[JDCAN]

Dan in Ohio, sorry to hear about your troubles, My 2520 sprung a hydraulic fluid leak after 20 hours, I have 40 on it now and it seems to be getting worse.

I hope I don't experience the troubles you are having. I really want to avoid a trip to the dealership if possible.

Wish you all the luck, hopefully they fix the problem for you.

 

[hemiguy]

OK guys,

I recently put a post in the "made in China on JD" thread and there's LOTs of chatter over there so now reading this post has me ready for a bit of a rant so strap yourselves in.

So every major company out there is buying food ingredients or tractor parts or doodads or whatever from someplace overseas. And then we buy this stuff ($100 cell phone or $16000 tractor or whatever) and it find out its low quality junk and say "Oh well" and throw it out and pay more $$$ to get another one. That's BS. I know the 790 is a good, rugged, reliable tractor, but Dan, you paid a lot of money for your 2520 with a full factory warranty. I'm sorry, but trading the 2520 for the 790 (in your situation) and possibly losing $$ is a dumb idea. I don't care about any stupid lemon laws.

There are only two possibilities, period:
1) Your dealer's service department is incompetent and has made the same screwup 3 times doing a simple repair.
OR
2) The "made wherever" axle housing has a casting defect and needs to be replaced entirely, meaning the whole darn thing.
I've been told many times that I'm laid back person, but after your second repair not working I would have been into that dealer, my neck veins popping out, demanding some action from somebody who can get that axle replaced. Another dealer in your area maybe? I have only had minor problems with my 2520 (nothing involving flooding my garage with fluids) and really love it (and my 455 too) but would honestly go to another brand if my JD service suddenly switched to being useless. My point here is that please don't let these machines become throw-away junk by accepting bad quality and bad service on top of it just because that's the way we expect it now in the "Global economy". I'm sure the local JD factory rep is eager to fix your 2520 axle problem. If not, we're certainly all doomed.

 

[Chris2520]

OK guys,

I recently put a post in the "made in China on JD" thread and there's LOTs of chatter over there so now reading this post has me ready for a bit of a rant so strap yourselves in.

So every major company out there is buying food ingredients or tractor parts or doodads or whatever from someplace overseas. And then we buy this stuff ($100 cell phone or $16000 tractor or whatever) and it find out its low quality junk and say "Oh well" and throw it out and pay more $$$ to get another one. That's BS. I know the 790 is a good, rugged, reliable tractor, but Dan, you paid a lot of money for your 2520 with a full factory warranty. I'm sorry, but trading the 2520 for the 790 (in your situation) and possibly losing $$ is a dumb idea. I don't care about any stupid lemon laws.

There are only two possibilities, period:
1) Your dealer's service department is incompetent and has made the same screwup 3 times doing a simple repair.
OR
2) The "made wherever" axle housing has a casting defect and needs to be replaced entirely, meaning the whole darn thing.
I've been told many times that I'm laid back person, but after your second repair not working I would have been into that dealer, my neck veins popping out, demanding some action from somebody who can get that axle replaced. Another dealer in your area maybe? I have only had minor problems with my 2520 (nothing involving flooding my garage with fluids) and really love it (and my 455 too) but would honestly go to another brand if my JD service suddenly switched to being useless. My point here is that please don't let these machines become throw-away junk by accepting bad quality and bad service on top of it just because that's the way we expect it now in the "Global economy". I'm sure the local JD factory rep is eager to fix your 2520 axle problem. If not, we're certainly all doomed.

Hemiguy , Tell us how you really feel...

I agree with what you just said. i would not trade down
and loose money. I would make them fix it. And thay will.
you just ant talked to the right person yet. ....

Chris.....

 

[RoyJackson]

Hemiguy , Tell us how you really feel...

I agree with what you just said. i would not trade down
and loose money. I would make them fix it. And thay will.
you just ant talked to the right person yet. ....

Chris.....

But he doesn't wnat to trade down, Chris...he wants to trade up...to a real tractor (albeit, a 1950 model)

 

[Chris2520]

Roy , I am sorry buddy.
but you can talk til your blue in the face.
a 790 is a fine tractor. but any way you slice it.
a man that sells a 2520 and buys a 790 is going down hill
and backing up.

when you sell a 15000$ dollar tractor
to buy a 11000$ dollar tractor. that ant going up hill....

That would be like someone selling a 3320 to buy a 3205
and thinking he is going up hill...

as i said earlier , I sure dont mean you any disrepect
but you just keep on.

Chris....

 

[madpogue]

These are really dealing with two separate issues, that _sorta_ dovetail into one another.

One - you got a lemon. And although lawyers and all may not be your way of doing things, lemon laws exist for just this kind of situation. You're not being letigious, you're just taking action to get what you deserve and paid for (a product that's not defective).

Two - some confusion / reappraisal wrt. which kind of tractor to own. Forget about the nomenclature of trading "up" or "down", the question is, do you want a manual-style ("rustic"?) tractor like the 90 series, or one with rubber decking and an HST like the 2xxx? Neither is "better"; they just cater to different clientele.

The upshot is, your lemon situation puts you in a position to do a "do-over", and re-think the manual/HST question. If you decide you want to keep the 2520, then fight like he!! to get it fixed, at their expense. Whatever you think about "lawyering up", we are talking about consumer protection, after all.

If you determine that, in retrospect, you would have gotten a 790, then propose to "meet them in the middle". So there's about a $2000 difference between them, right? Well, to take into account the 30 hours on the 2520, and to "swallow" the decision to buy it (rather than the 790) in the first place, split the difference, and tell them you'll take the 790 and $1000 in trade for the 2520. Remind them that this will also make their problems regarding an irate customer with a leaking tractor go away, at least for now.

 

[hemiguy]

Oh my God,

You guys are killing me here. If Dan would really rather have a 790 after all, fine. HST vs Gear, blah blah. I still think the only single real issue here is whether JD is going to continue to stand behind their products or not. "Lawyer-Up"? What is this, CSI. Lemon laws were invented to deal with problems with used cars (and then new ones). Why the he!! should we need lemon laws to get a problem fixed on a JD tractor? This is a company that back in 1960 took back every single one of their junky 8010's (OK 99 out of 100 made, I guess one owner said " no thanks, I'm good") and rebuilt them into 8020's. For those of you you who don't know the 8010 was JD's very first monster 4WD, 200+hp, articulated machine. This must have cost a huge chunk of money back then, and now in 2007 they won't fix a serious problem on one lousy 2520?? I'm working mine pretty darned hard. Will it last 20 yrs (or over 50 like most of the tractors in Dan's stable)? I don't know. All I know, is if something breaks or leaks I shouldn't need to hire a legal team to get it fixed.

 

[JDCAN]

For farts and giggles, let's say Dan In Ohio trades in him problematic 2520 for a trouble free 790.

If Dan in Ohio goes on to experience years of trouble free operation on a 790 compared to his 2520, then couldn't one say the 790 was the better tractor?

While some will say the 2520 is better and some will say the 790 is better, the end of the day the machine that last the longest without issues is the better machine.

I sort of understand where Daninohio is coming from, he invested all this money in the marketed mighty 2520 and has had nothing but troubles I can totally understand why he might be willing to trade into a machine with a proven track record of being durable and bullet proof.

Some users here forget when a tractor is in a repair shop it can cost the owner alot more money in lost time, meaning some users need a tractor to make a living and down time can be more expensive than the repair bill itself.

Either way good luck DaninOhio and hope it turns out for the better.

A solid working trouble free tractor is the best tractor going.

 

[ironwood]

This is an old thread I know, but to he issue of which is better, I asked my local LARGE JD mechanic about which unit would be better for me looong term without electrical issues and all sort of other concenrs and he very quitely says "go with the 790, or 990" dont tell so and so I said that.

Give me KISS.

Ironwood

 

[jenkinsph]

This is an old thread I know, but to he issue of which is better, I asked my local LARGE JD mechanic about which unit would be better for me looong term without electrical issues and all sort of other concenrs and he very quitely says "go with the 790, or 990" dont tell so and so I said that.

Give me KISS.

Ironwood

My 820 is simple and still works as well now as it ever did. The difference in simplicity between an older simple tractor and a new hydrostatic more complex tractor is well taken. BUT, I would say that everyday chores using a boxblade or fel is much simpler for the operator with the new hydrostatic tractors. It isn't a matter of not being experienced in using gear transmissions as I have used all of them, but if you are trying to compete and make a living operating tractors the newer tractors will give you an edge with increased productivity.

 

[JDGreenGrass]

I came thisclose to trading my 770 for a 2520 about a year ago when they were "on sale." Thought about it long and hard. In the end, I decided to keep my 770.

My 770 has roughly 2700 hours on it and everything runs as it should, therefore....I kept it.!!:thumbsup: