/ Tractors and wood! Show your pics #19,931
- Apr 6, 2000
- Kubota B2650HSD w/Frontloader & CC LTX1046 & Craftman T2200 lawn mower.
Now what was that old saying...Pick rut hope you make it"
My road hasn’t started to mud up yet, but it will tomorrow. It’s a gravel town road which makes the hypotenuse of a triangle, the other two sides are state highways.Yup, pick a rut and go for it. Usually the only ones that get in trouble are the ones who think the smartest thing to do is to go way over on the shoulder where there are no ruts and it looks nice and smooth.
Thanks, Loaderman, and sorry for the delayed response. I ready it over quickly, intending to go back to it when I had more time. This thread has been so active that I lost track of the post. I could not remember where I had asked the question.I have 5 ATV's, but really only one I use for firewood, another the misses will use to move a small garden trailer full of split wood from time to time. Here's my opinion, and it is purely that based on my personal experience, sorry if i bounce around a lot...
- It must have 4WD, I think that's obvious why.
- If he plans to be alone in the woods, it should have a winch on the machine, ATV's weigh 800lbs or so, not something you are pulling out by hand if stuck.
- I recommend something in the 700cc engine size (or bigger), you want some power to get you up hills and towing.
- I prefer and ATV over a side by side, mainly because of the smaller footprint, (fits in tighter spots, especially where there are no trails) if he's going to be alone, he won't need the extra seat(s), and i wouldn't recommend towing a side by side behind a Subaru. They weigh 1000-1200 lbs, plus trailer, that's a lot for a smaller car.
- My 700cc Polaris is rated to tow 1050lbs, but I have moved a 1500lb popup camper (slowly) without smoking the belt.
- I like the independent axles, solely for the much increased ground clearance. Honda has a solid axle in some of their models (at least they used to), and its just hanging down there to catch on a rock or drag in the mud.
- It will need good tires, yes most come with decent tires, but as most of you know, there is a huge difference between R1 & R3 tires on a tractor, same applies to 4 wheelers. The thicker the tread and sidewall the better, mostly for stick puncture resistance and sharp rock slices. I have had good luck with Kenda Bearclaw brand tires. you want space between the lugs to shed mud & snow, these run at higher rpms than tractors, so they sling the mud vs just displace it.
- Sounds like a luxury, but power steering (known as EPS, electronic power steering) is becoming more common in these things, and this relates to less arm fatigue towards the end of the day, which to me, translates to safer saw operation. Usually adds $1k-$1500 to price of machine though.
- As for brand of ATV, you really can't go wrong with any of the Main brands (not Chinese no matter how appealing the price, you'll end up paying in the end) I own mostly Polaris, for a few reasons but mainly because there is a dealer nearby. They also have websites devoted to just buying factory parts. I have selectable 4WD, its a CVD transmission, (its just a drive belt between 2 conical sheaves that move closer together as speed increases) and a transfer case with 2 driveshafts to gearboxes and axle shafts to wheel hubs. It has some sort of 4wheel locker so I don't get 2 opposing wheels spinning while stuck. I think Yamaha and Kawasaki have more transmission selection options, like front locker, rear locker, front neutral etc. I like the ability to pick how you want it, but I don't know how much I would use it while working, that seems more like something I would do while playing and tail riding etc.
Ones to start looking at in no particular order:
Yamaha Kodiak 700, 4 wheel independent suspension, engine braking to help slow you down hills w/o riding on the brakes, low winch mount location (pulls from low down keeping it more steady) lever shifter with linkage to select between P,R,N,H,L However doesn't look like you get differential lockers until you step up to the Grizzly model adding more $$. I'd have to do a bit more digging. tows 1300lbs
2023 Yamaha Kodiak 700 Utility ATV - Photo Gallery, Video, Specs, Features, Offers, Inventory and more2023 Yamaha Kodiak 700 Utility ATVwww.yamahamotorsports.com
Kawasaki Brute Force 750 twin, 4 wheel independent suspension, mid winch mount location, lever shifter with linkage to select between R,N,H,L you get selectable front differential locker. Only comes in red unless you upgrade to a higher model. tows 1250lbs
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Polaris Sportsman 850 twin, 4 wheel independent suspension, low winch mount location, lever shifter with linkage to select between P,R,N,H,L AWD, highest ground clearance, also tows 1500lbs.
The 2024 Sportsman 850 sport utility ATV continues the tradition of do-it-all capability and toughness, with power that packs a punch and suspension that'll tame even the wildest terrains.atv.polaris.com
I didn't mention Honda (who makes great engines etc) because I cant find anything listed for a winch location, or one even listed as an accessory option. And for this type of work by yourself, I think its important to have.
I bought a Northern Log Arch, and as handy as it has been, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, maybe to the guy that has a lawn tractor and wants to move the occasional stick. Its too short, (tongue to tires) so while easy to maneuver going forward in the woods, its half impossible to back up in the woods, (maybe easy for you 4 wheel wagon & tractor guys). You hit a little stick or stump under the leaves and this thing is sideways & jack-knifed in a second. I also had to replace winch mechanism and flat strap, both failed separately. I also had to change out the tongue but that was more so it fit a 2" ball not 1-7/8". All my other stuff was 2".
Sorry for the long winded reply but that's what I came up with this Monday morning. Please reach out to me if you have more questions, I would be happy to discuss any of this.
I can't even come close to getting my Tacoma pickup in where my neighbor can get his ATV or where I can get my Coot.I always thought if I really wanted a 4x4 or SxS for work only I would look at an old Toyota 4x4 pickup or something like that. Cheaper, better ground clearance, easy to get parts, and an enclosed cab with heat and air. Yeah its a little bigger but not that much really
I always thought if I really wanted a 4x4 or SxS for work only I would look at an old Toyota 4x4 pickup or something like that. Cheaper, better ground clearance, easy to get parts, and an enclosed cab with heat and air. Yeah its a little bigger but not that much really
Not a problem, just wanted to make sure you saw an answer to your inquiry. & no, I don't expect most of you to read all of this!Thanks, Loaderman, and sorry for the delayed response. I ready it over quickly, intending to go back to it when I had more time. This thread has been so active that I lost track of the post. I could not remember where I had asked the question.
That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I've forwarded it on to my friend. Like you, I'm thinking he may go for an ATV over a side by side, since as you mentioned, they are easier to get into tight spaces.That's a definite need of his. On the other hand, he has some gear to cart around. Having to pull a trailer to bring along the gear loses some of the ATV's advantage on getting into tough spaces. He might consider a smaller SxS, just for the gear hauling (and the ability to easily bring an employee along with him).
I am curious about your preference for independent rear suspension. The higher ground clearance is definitely a plus, however, the little I've heard about ATVs & SxS is that a solid axle is better for towing. Having not used either, I'm not sure how much of an issue that is, or even what "better for towing" might mean. If you have two otherwise similar designs and both are rated to tow the same weight, what makes on better than the other for towing?
If I were shopping for myself, I'd be looking at something like the Kawasaki Mule SX series. I like the ability to carry some gear, but I also like the fact that it's smaller (52.6" wide) - gets in to tighter spaces and is easy to load on a 5' wide trailer. It also seems to have a good reputation. I only see two real downsides: (1) there is no engine braking - I'd prefer having that in our hills and (2) there are no dealers near me. The Kawasaki dealers in my area seem to be focused mainly on motorcycles. So many of the other SxS are just too big to interest me. If I need more towing power, I'll take my tractor.
I'm going to disagree with you just a little on this one. Typically a pickups lowest point off the ground is the rear differential, since all stock trucks have a solid rear axle. The only way to increase this is to put on larger tires (unless you swap out to an aftermarket axle). So a stock Toyota has about 9.5 inches at that point in stock form. A new ATV with 4 wheel independent suspension has at least that, the new Polaris 850 boasts 11.5 inches in stock form. If you go to the high-lifter series, (not that anybody in their right mind should) its at 13.5 inches! But the other things where the ATV's have the advantage is in approach & departure angles, ATV's its close to 90 degrees, trucks its a lot less. Also with the much shorter wheelbase, I don't get high centered except on a 12" or larger log, something you wouldn't likely try to even drive over in a stock pickup.I always thought if I really wanted a 4x4 or SxS for work only I would look at an old Toyota 4x4 pickup or something like that. Cheaper, better ground clearance, easy to get parts, and an enclosed cab with heat and air. Yeah its a little bigger but not that much really