Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better?

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   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #191  
No, certainly you weren't being threatening, and your post certainly didn't imply an 'or else.'

You're tossing around half-assed obscenities, inviting people to the Carolina's to compare cocks. Beef? That's steak, hamburger, etc.

Ass over tit means head over heels, but I suppose I should have presumed you weren't capable of figuring it out. You want me to be a smart ass? You want me to get real involved in this conversation? I'd be happy to. I will waste your entire night; you will go to bed with high blood pressure, having accomplished not a damn thing.
 
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   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #192  
No, certainly you weren't being threatening, and your post certainly didn't imply an 'or else.'

You're tossing around half-assed obscenities, inviting people to the Carolina's to compare cocks. Beef? That's steak, hamburger, etc.

Ass over tit mean head over heels, but I suppose I should have presumed you weren't capable of figuring it out. You want me to be a smart ass? You want me to get real involved in this conversation? I'd be happy to. I will waste your entire night; you will go to be with high blood pressure, having accomplished not a damn thing.
Number sent.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #193  
Did your dumb ass really just PM me your phone number like you have any relevance in my life?

You princess.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #194  
Nah, mofo, your momma bothers me. That biatch won't STFU. If you wish to be a smart ass I'll hand you my mofo phone #. If you live in the midlands if SC I'll hand you my address so you can mofo ask slick to my mofo'ing face.
Lol. Only a fragile person would respond to a post like this. No thanks on the meet up internet tough guy, you're way too scary. Lol. Hope you have a good evening and can forgive Toyota one day for what they did to you. It's good for the soul.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #195  
So this site has a summary of three different groups that rate vehicle quality. They use data, not some internet guy's friend's story. Do you really think there is some conspiracy of US publications to put American nameplates down? This is not some opinion or anecdote.

I always view those reliability lists with some skepticism. They always rate Jeeps poorly, but I’ve owned 5 of them, 3 had close to 300K miles before I sold them, still running good. I still have one of the other 2 with only 130k miles, and my son has the other.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #196  
So this site has a summary of three different groups that rate vehicle quality. They use data, not some internet guy's friend's story. Do you really think there is some conspiracy of US publications to put American nameplates down? This is not some opinion or anecdote.

First quality doesn't necessarily equal reliability. With that said I don't trust that list.

If talking reliability they put Buick, Mazda, and BMW in a top 10 most reliable list. Look I love GM as much as I do Ford, but the Colorado's 3.6L/8L90 doesn't have the best reputation. I don't feel that drivetrain is as bad as some make it out to be, but it is far from the gold standard in terms of either quality or reliability. Personally I wouldn't have an issue buying that drivetrain, but it's reputation isn't the best. Buick has used that drivetrain in several models, or at least the 3.6L.

Mazda generally makes some sporty feeling, fun to drive cars, that ride on very good chassis's, but they're generally viewed as one of the lesser reliable Japanese vehicles. I do believe they designed the engine that the 3.5L Ecoboost is based off of.

BMW's reliability is junk. Even being made in my home state I'd never recommend one. They're nice vehicles while they work, but if you're of the typical Toyota owner mindset of long lasting, almost assured many trouble free miles, then they're not the vehicle for you.

I've not seen Lexus reliability generally live up to Toyota reliability, at least not when talking about their full model range.

Same when talking Acura vs Honda. IMO one reason Toyota, and Honda tend to be thought of as the most reliable is they're not constantly changing things. GEN2 Tundras had teething issues. Toyota worked them out. The domestic trucks evolve at a higher rate than Tundra or Titan, and new leads to more issues than something that's had its bugs worked out over years of real world testing. Toyota fans are bashing the GEN3 Tundra now, and claiming the GEN2 Tundra to be way better, and more reliable. I expect this sentiment to flip in 3-4 years when Toyota fans will claim the GEN3 Tundra to be the best truck ever, and claim it to be the most reliable thing on 4 wheels. GEN2 Tundra went through the same thing it's first few years. It didn't get a lot of love from Toyota purists who thought its construction was inferior to GEN1 Tundras. First year GEN2 Tundras had a reputation for snapping the ends of the camshafts off. Toyota worked to fix this.
 
   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #197  
That looks like "Road Trip MPG" on iPhone in dark mode.

The app has a field to record what the Fool Meter claims is your MPG. Then in Statistics you can plot it against the calculated MPG.

This is my F-150. Red is the calculated. The fine ghost lines above red are what the Fool Computer claimed.
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   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #198  

Ha and here I thought only older RAM trucks lied on their MPG display.



Wow, take an afternoon off for some fun out on the boat and get home open up the old TBN and it looks like all 4377 broke out on this thread.

Never thought this thread would make the battery vehicles thread look boring but WoW.

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after a bit of thought


Will make a request , and again, "just asking here"
Please try and keep the language semi clean.
TBN has always been a site that kept the profanity to a very low level.
I have always thought it is One of the Most endearing Qualities that makes this tractor site a Favorite of many tractor owners.


Plenty of other sites where the content gets toxic to visit if that is what is desired.

I also have Nothing against Toyota.
Even Forgot the Last two New vehicles my dad bought before passing were a RAV 4 and a Tacoma. Oh and FIL also has a RAV4, also trouble free if you don't count a deer jumping out in front of the RAV and activating his full coverage
new sheet metal and paint all Good to Go again
 
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   / Towing 10.1K with either Toyota Tundra SR5 OR F150 which is better? #199  
If the latest F150 really has 3300 lb. payload capacity, I'd wonder what fraction of that can be safely placed on the rear axle. Do they post the respective GAWR's on the door, and do we know the distribution at curb weight?
Your choice of wording suggests all F-150s might apply. Very few configurations break the 10k tow barrier. And perhaps 1 configuration of 50 has 3300 pound payload.
 
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