Too much plow?

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porkchop401

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Well fellas I picked up a like brand new14" single button plow for my ground breaking . I'm pulling with my trusty ym226 . The problem is I am breaking virgin ground with a 5 inch sod and though the tractor will pull it about 2mph any little hickup such as a root will stall and rather than gut wrench the tractor I think a larger one is in order. The tractor does pretty well with it in worked ground. I am not wanting a large tractor to have to upsize implements. I'm thinking may be a 2600 ford are a more powerful compact with 4x4. Your thoughts please.
 
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Why not just rent a big walk behind tiller for the first go?
 
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You could rip it before you plow. Make several passes with a small ripper going 6" or so deep at a time then go deeper the next pass. Most any smaller tractor will pull one if you do it in stages.
Sod and tillers are NOT a good combo, cause you cant get it mixed good enough. Gotta moldboard that stuff under for best results.
 
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Your Yanmar weighs about 2000 pounds? I am surprised it is having problems. Maybe dropping down a gear would help? I like plowing so for me, the slower I go the more time I have to watch the action behind me.

My avatar is a Deere 2305 pulling a Brinly 12" plow.
 
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I have a 18" Pittsburg single bottom moldboard plow. It pulls easily behind my Kubota M6040. The problem - too many large rocks.

If I wanted to till large tracts - a heavy disk harrow would be in order.
 
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Porkchop,

Is this a "one and done" job, or will you need to do more of this virgin ground breaking?

How big is the area you're breaking?

If it isn't a huge field, and this is only needing to be done once, how about using a middle buster to break the ground, followed by the plow?

Are you then going to disc the whole thing again?

How about a 3 pt tiller?
 
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how deep are you trying to go? Can you crowd the inside of the furrow to take a slightly narrower cut?
 
/ Too much plow? #8  
hire out that 1st ground breaking. lot cheaper than a new machine, should be manageable after that.
easy fix.
Or if you intend to upgrade tractor...i would step back & look at the big pic & future as well rather than just accommodate the plow itself. much easier to grow into a machine that can handle unknown future tasks, than have to turn around & upgrade when a new challenge comes around. best of luck
 
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First break of any new ground is going to be tough,a lot easier following.
 
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Porkchop,

Is this a "one and done" job, or will you need to do more of this virgin ground breaking?

How big is the area you're breaking?

If it isn't a huge field, and this is only needing to be done once, how about using a middle buster to break the ground, followed by the plow?

Are you then going to disc the whole thing again?

How about a 3 pt tiller?
I intend to grow veggies for market once I retire in the years to come, as for now I am breaking this ground that was cleared about 5 years ago and I have been bus hogging ever since.
I intend t start adding organic matter such as cotton trash and chicken litter to get it ready to grow so I am thinking follow up plowing will be easier. As for as a tiller I am still dealing with a few stumps hat have not rotted out.
 
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I am definitely going to upgrade my tractor but I do not want to go so large that my current implements are useless.
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Your Yanmar weighs about 2000 pounds? I am surprised it is having problems. Maybe dropping down a gear would help? I like plowing so for me, the slower I go the more time I have to watch the action behind me.

My avatar is a Deere 2305 pulling a Brinly 12" plow.
Ok I have to admit the thought of a 18" plow had me scratching my head so I googled the 18" Pittsburg mould board plow and it is a fraction of the plow Iam pulling. Mine is a howse for a full size tractor.
 
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I am definitely going to upgrade my tractor but I do not want to go so large that my current implements are useless. View attachment 718713
You are making progress. Hit that with a disk a couple of times in the same direction then cross ways. Then use your plow again and you will have better results.

But I agree upgrading your tractor will be beneficial.
 
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Honestly, you look like you're doing a nice job as is. Hitting roots, big rocks, or stumps is going to be an issue on most machines I would think, especially in first break. We've been running in to buried rocks, and dead stopping our 8N since before I was alive. Doesn't seem to care much. Yea, we could run the backhoe out to get at them, but up where we are, that rock is just as likely to be the size of a truck...
Once you're looking at utility machines in the mid 30 hp range, you should just look at the mid 40's as well. They're not much bigger if any, and still run the Cat 1 gear without issue. My MF 135 is pretty much the same size as our 8N, and while heavier, isn't really that much bigger than your current ride. Figure like 8-12" bigger in each direction, and almost twice the ponies...
 
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That dirt looks pretty dry, so that plow is going to pull harder. By stalling, I'm assuming you're meaning spinning. Are your tires loaded..?? Because I see no wheel weights, and unless my eyes are deceiving me, the furrow tire looks to be on backwards. That's not helping either.
 
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Ok I have to admit the thought of a 18" plow had me scratching my head so I googled the 18" Pittsburg mould board plow and it is a fraction of the plow Iam pulling. Mine is a howse for a full size tractor.

I'm gonna have to google that to see what you're talking about, or was it a typo?
 
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That dirt looks pretty dry, so that plow is going to pull harder. By stalling, I'm assuming you're meaning spinning. Are your tires loaded..?? Because I see no wheel weights, and unless my eyes are deceiving me, the furrow tire looks to be on backwards. That's not helping either.
You are correct in that my tires are not loaded and it is dry and I am spinning when I stall. My tires are running in the correct direction I am going to water the rear tires before I break ground and add front weight since I'm light on the front when the plow is in the ground.
 
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I'm gonna have to google that to see what you're talking about, or was it a typo?
That plow is measured from the frame to plow point.rather than from rear tip of the shear across to the rail. Resulting In the width of turned ground per plow.
 
 

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