To Play in This Playground

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Seems there are some who don't like to play by the rules and thus become a 'deleted' subject.
Seems if one wants to play in this playground, there are rules to follow or get tossed out of the playground. There are other playgrounds that may let you 'play'.
I like this one, and am glad to see that the moderators and admins are sticking to their 'rules' for the majority who seem to get along just fine.
Just an opinion. Thanks admins.
 
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I agree too. Been here since before it was TBN, back when it was just a Kubota site. It was, and continues to be, a great site.

I have had a couple threads shut down over the years when I got rambunctious. I knew the "terms of agreement". I said "oops" and continued on, enjoying this site.

The playground rules are in the "post" area and in the terms of agreement. The crew here maintains based on those rules. And, they do a good job of it /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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IMO......damage has been done! If handled correctly and consistantly in the first place we wouldn't have lost the expertice we did. Some content that was tolerated in earlier times is getting axed right away now. I believe differences in opinion and personalities by both members and admin cost us.

ATTN: Only MY opinion and not intended to enflame....I've been wrong many times..... /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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Things have flared up and calmed down in the past. And, members have come and gone too, whether because of the climate on the site at the time, or, as I tell my son, as they progressively travel on the space time continuum. As I mentioned above, I've been here since close to the beginning. I've seen the cycles, and have been scarce a few times myself for various reasons(although I do not count myself as one of the essential knowledgable folks here).

This is a side job for the owners and moderators. When they have time, they are really on top of things. When they are busy, things take longer.
 
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Never have we allowed people to post threads asking why posts were removed or users banned. That's the content that is being axed. We have had the same exact policy on that for more than six years.

It's not that the rules haven't changed, but that more people are breaking them.

I sincerely appreciate the job our moderators do, and when people criticize their contributions in public, I'm going to remove it. When people praise them, I'm going to leave it, and join in myself. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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<font color="brown"> </font><font color="blue" class="small">( This is a side job for the owners and moderators. When they have time, they are really on top of things. When they are busy, things take longer. )</font> </font>

I think this would be considered consistency! I did discuss the consistency issue with a moderator when things got heated some time ago and we agreed that not all moderators think alike. They're job is tough and appreciated but their actions and decisions establish precedense that then needs to be consistent with other moderators.

Like I told the moderator, I'm not looking to start anything but IMO principle in standards are required and important to me. Maybe that is what we're seeing with more than normal deletions. Still doesn't negate the fact that some very knowledgable people are gone when I think it could have been avoided.

BTW...... I know that replys I've made in an honest effort to help people have been deleted, my time wasted. I also believe all critique is not bad.........

Again only my opinion, I'm off my box.

Mahammad,

I promise I'll say no more on the subject.
 
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Greg,

I can tell you're a "flamer" just by looking at your picture! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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Every time you post or reply to a post, the rules (in an abbreviated form) are listed above the box where you type your post. This is new - you used to have to dig for the "rules". And you still do if you want to see the unabridged version. Go to FAQ at the top of the page.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Can I ask where are all the "rules" listed to "play in this playground"? )</font>

As has been said, perhaps the most important ones are listed right above the dialogue box you're typing in. However, everyone should also read the FAQ and the Terms of Service. You may find some interesting information there in addition to the "rules".
 
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I've had two post deleted since I've been posting here (not that long, I realize).

Funny, the first one was because I "broke the rules" and called someone a name. More funny because after PM'ing the gentleman in question, we "resolved" our "differences", and sometime in the near future, I may actually (sp?) meet him.

The second time was today. I broke a rule that was not listed.

I'll play by the rules, but list ALL of them.

Whats interesting is that someone else here asked a question that I was thinking as well (so I asked), and if two of us were thinking the same question, there are more people "here" thinking the same question as well.

I enjoy this site.

Think the information is great, and for the most part, all of the people here as well.

The issue is when you're afraid to ask a question because you don't want to "upset someone" or be "banished" from a web site you actually enjoy.

Guess there are more important things in life! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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ROFLMAO.................... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And to think I use to own a Kubota....... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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Also, TBN members should be aware that "Private Messages" are considered part of the forum, and as such must follow the Terms of Service and must follow the same guidelines as posting. Also, Private Messages should not be considered private and are subject to review by Forum Administrators.
 
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<font color="blue">Forum Administrators </font>

Be sure to read ADMINISTRATORS there and not moderators. The moderators do not have the ability to read any PMs but their own.

As to all this discussion about who is here, where is he, he got the boot, etc... and then the comments regarding why that person got a post pulled, etc... it has already been made clear that the reasons a post got pulled will not be discussed in the public forums so why do we have to keep bringing it up? Posts get pulled for a variety of reasons and the originator of the pulled post almost always is told via PM why it was pulled. 99% of people that have a post removed reply back with a very kind and understanding response.

Let's please move on from this discussion and resume our mutual interests in tractors and associated topics. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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One other detail for all to be aware of. There is such a thing as "friendly fire" in moderation practices. When we moderate a post we normally PM the initiator with the reason. If others have responded to that post their posts will be removed as part of the thread. This is where some innocent posts get removed and normally PMs are not sent to those innocent victims. If anyone ever has a question regarding a moderated post, let any of the moderators know via PM. We'll do our best to figure it out and explain to you.

Now enough of this talk, let's get back to tractors /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Just food for thought, many successful organizations and groups, particularly volunteer ones have mandatory terms for positions and individuals relinquish their position allowing a new person to step up eg every 12 months. This has a positive effect by eliminating friction between the organizers (in this case moderators) and some of the general membership. It also encourages good behavior by all; ads freshness as envy and the tall poppy syndrome is eliminated. I could go on and on with the advantages, I won’t as this post is just a suggestion and I am sure Muhammad can see where I am coming from.
 
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