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Deerlope

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I am having diffculty getting a bead to seal. I am working with a 14.9 X 28" tubeless tire. I think that this tire was on the bottom of a very large pile. What has anyone done to get a bead to seal on a tire that does not want to co-operate?
 
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You can use a large ratchet strap binder and put it around the tire. Tightening the strap should pull the bead into place as you air the tire up.

Sinserely, Dirt
 
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I use a rope on a smaller tire and put a bar under it, twisting it to shorten the rope. With the rope in the center of the tread, it compresses the tread, and flares the beads outward. On larger tires, I use a 2" wide ratchet strap, to do the same thing. A little persuasion and it usually works.
If your talking about getting the bead to seal after it has seated, then that is another problem. Clean rims, and no rust is about all I can offer on that.
David from jax
 
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I think tha I like watching someone else do it. I might put to much starting fluid in and make too much of a boom. I did watch one vid where the guy was doing it on a 4X4 p/u in the mud and it sure wasn't his first time.
 
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This is a new tire install. My dealer worked all day today on it. I really need my tractor because we got 6-12 inches of snow coming tonight. I like the 2" rachet strap idea. I would have use a come-a-long.
 
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Since you don't like the either idea. Remove the tire from the rim.Cut some 2x4's about 2in wider than your rim and wedge them between the beads. Warm up the tire for awhile and then let it cool. Hopefully when you remove the 2x4's the beads will stay seperated.Then remount on the rim and inflate. Or if anyone in the area repairs semi tires see if they have a bead blaster and that should do it.
Bill
 
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As a kid, the starting fluid trick is the only way I ever saw anyone seat a bead. Since then I've found the rachet strap trick to work pretty well.

It sounds like you're talking about a pretty big tire. I'd do the ether trick. It's not as scary as you would initially think.
 
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I agree farmer . I think its the amout of either used. I think some overdue it just to flir with disaster.
 
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I am not against doing any of the suggestions. Its just that I think it would take a lot of ether for that size tractor tire.
 
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here is what i did . i used a rachet and it worked like a charm. the only thing i want to caution is be very careful of your fingers when releaseing the strap after you get it inflated.
 

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This is a new tire install. My dealer worked all day today on it. I really need my tractor because we got 6-12 inches of snow coming tonight. I like the 2" rachet strap idea. I would have use a come-a-long.

A come-a-long does not work so well. The body of the winch part makes a flat spot in the tire and the bead does not expand evenly. The ratchet strap does not have this long flat section.
 
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I agree farmer . I think its the amout of either used. I think some overdue it just to flir with disaster.

No arguement there from me. I watched a dozen or so of the YouTube videos and in a lot of them there was hardly any flame.

I'd much rather complain that I had to do it again because of not using enough ether than complain of having to grow my eyebrows back because of using too much.
 
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here is what i did . i used a rachet and it worked like a charm. the only thing i want to caution is be very careful of your fingers when releaseing the strap after you get it inflated.

I've learned to not inflate the tire the whole way with the strap in place. Just put enough air in to seat the bead, and then let the strap go. I've had straps break on me when inflating the tire. There are a lot of square inches in a strap around even a small tire. 5 psi adds up to thousands of pounds pretty quickly.
 
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here is what i did . i used a rachet and it worked like a charm. the only thing i want to caution is be very careful of your fingers when releaseing the strap after you get it inflated.
Yeah ; you can mash your fingers or get them cracked if not careful.
One thing you could do to lessen that risk is let the air back out after the bead seats realease the strap then
re air up the tire.
 
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I've learned to not inflate the tire the whole way with the strap in place. Just put enough air in to seat the bead, and then let the strap go. I've had straps break on me when inflating the tire. There are a lot of square inches in a strap around even a small tire. 5 psi adds up to thousands of pounds pretty quickly.
This is a good idea also.
 
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Oh yes Farmers and Mr Brown are right that what I do just enough to have the bead move and start to grab.And I do this with the valve stem OUT. and usually the end of the quick disconnecter on the stem.Get max air flow into the rim and tire. once it starts to go I slip the disconnect off and then plug with my finger and then inset and tighten the stem after a few you will be able to hold the stem tool and stem with one hand and fingers.
Then, air it up.
I do enough that I have a hose all made up with a clamp on end so i can stand back from it when it pops on. This is helpful when using some bead sealer as it splatter around when it seats
 
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I have seen a rope/hose/ballon that is made to do what we are talking about with the strap. You just cinch it on the middle of the tire like the strap and air the strap up. Once it is inflated, you then air the tire up till the bead seats, then release the air in the strap and finish filling the tire with air. They probably still make these inflatable straps, and there isn't much to them so they shouldn't cost too much.
David from jax
 

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