Tips on loading dead tractor

[WranglerX]

I have winch on my trailer.....

 

[Jstpssng]

My tractor PTO lever has a safety switch to prevent starting the engine with PTO engaged. Sometimes I have to hold the lever back to start the engine, because I've bumped it enough to engage the safety switch.
BTW, it's also a pretty good theft prevention trick.

Would a partially engaged safety switch trip a code?

 

[dodge man]

Do you know what the codes mean?

 

[Jstpssng]

Do you know what the codes mean?

A DDG search to answer my own question led me back to TBN. (Go figure) with this result from 2019;

Error Code 007 and 008 are only signally a "Safety Start" fault. The error codes in the Operator Information window on the instrument cluster are only signally faults in the Safety Start system, and have nothing to do with the Engine ECU. If the operator forgets to meet one of the Safety Start requirements, in the seat, range in neutral, ect., you will get one of the error codes in the dash unit. Once the safety start requirements are met, the tractor will start and the error code will remain for a couple seconds, then disappear.

Important to know that the error codes on the dash unit are ONLY Safety Start errors, and have nothing to do with the Engine ECU and Fault System. The NX Tractors have a separate Safety Start System that is read through the operator information in the dash unit.

Hope this helps.

Understanding Error 008

I purchased a new NX4510 over the weekend and had a backhoe put on Monday so today was the first day I have operated the tractor. It was delivered and I got home and unfortunately it would not start and had the error code 008. Dealer said it's nothing to worry and said it won't start cause I'm...

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[cbosworth]

My tractor won’t start and I may need to get it to the dealer next week.

Fortunately it’s in a gravel parking area behind my barn. I could probably get a trailer backed up pretty close to it, and will probably need to winch it onto a trailer.

My main concern is that the front bucket is on the ground. I’ve never dealt with that situation in loading vehicles.

Any good ideas on how to deal with that?
Thanks

Request a Mobile Tractor Service. They fix it at your location - unless it is serious work. The Mobile network is pretty large in my area and I never knew that was an option. My area current John Deere labor rates are:
In-house Labor is $180/hr
Mobile Service is $200/hr

 

[Little Red Tractor]

You know it's gonna be a hassle, plus you'll have to get it off the trailer. A roll back even with the added expense would be the way to go.
As far as the loader, I've never delt with that, but I suspect you could put it in float, jack it up, take it out of float. It should stay up for a little while. Or you could fabricate some hydraulic cylinder locks and block the cylinders.

That would be my suggestion as well. It may not work, but if it does it will save you from the only other real option--the rollback.

 

[boatmoter]

My tractor won’t start and I may need to get it to the dealer next week.

Fortunately it’s in a gravel parking area behind my barn. I could probably get a trailer backed up pretty close to it, and will probably need to winch it onto a trailer.

My main concern is that the front bucket is on the ground. I’ve never dealt with that situation in loading vehicles.

Any good ideas on how to deal with that?
Thanks

I bought a dead tractor with a loader that had not been run in years. I found it much more fast and easy and a time saver to just hire a roll back tow truck. they pulled the old MF industrial 30 onto the bed and away to my house it went. bill was $150. I tried and could not rent a trailer with a winch for that

 

[kjon]

My tractor won’t start and I may need to get it to the dealer next week.

Fortunately it’s in a gravel parking area behind my barn. I could probably get a trailer backed up pretty close to it, and will probably need to winch it onto a trailer.

My main concern is that the front bucket is on the ground. I’ve never dealt with that situation in loading vehicles.

Any good ideas on how to deal with that?
Thanks

Lift it with a chain and another tractor or jack it up while having valve in lift position ( or remove hyd line on cylinder) and secure 2x4 blocks to ram to hold.

 

[Gord Baker]

My tractor won’t start and I may need to get it to the dealer next week.

Fortunately it’s in a gravel parking area behind my barn. I could probably get a trailer backed up pretty close to it, and will probably need to winch it onto a trailer.

My main concern is that the front bucket is on the ground. I’ve never dealt with that situation in loading vehicles.

Any good ideas on how to deal with that?
Thanks

Remove the bucket. Try cranking the engine while holding on the Lift Lever.
You might also Try Jacking up the bucket while tying down the Lift Lever.

 

[dusty3030]

If the OP would jump the ground wire on the start relay to ground he can hop in the seat, start it up and drive it on the trailer.

 

[Bentrim]

The easiest and quickest way is to run a chain or winch cable under the bucket and pull it on the trailer or truck.The loader will rise to the ocassion. Or load the tractor backwards and the loader will float as it is loaded. Working for a deaaler have done that many times.

 

[daking2959]

Don't try this at home.

Bruce

Looks like a Dukes of Hazzard "rollback"

 

[Lavender Valley]

My tractor won’t start and I may need to get it to the dealer next week.

Fortunately it’s in a gravel parking area behind my barn. I could probably get a trailer backed up pretty close to it, and will probably need to winch it onto a trailer.

My main concern is that the front bucket is on the ground. I’ve never dealt with that situation in loading vehicles.

Any good ideas on how to deal with that?
Thanks

Most tractor hydraulics will lift by pulling the "up" lever back and turning the engine over on the starter. It should lift enough to move it.

 

[Jstpssng]

Most tractor hydraulics will lift by pulling the "up" lever back and turning the engine over on the starter. It should lift enough to move it.

If the engine turned over this discussion wouldn't exist. Yet you raise a good point. We tried to lift the loader on my father's 4400 (gasser) with the Kubota bucket, bjt weren't able to raise it more than a few inches. As we dragged it around the field trying to start it though, I was able to bring it up to where I wanted it.

 

[CalG]

One "trick" I learned from my uncle when loading a tractor in uncertain conditions.

Let out air from the tires to increase rolling resistance. That way, if things go south, crap will happen in slow motion. Might give you time to get out of the way.

Having a portable air compressor handy helps in just the opposite way ....;-)

Careful with CaCl loaded tires!

 

[RayIN]

Would a partially engaged safety switch trip a code?

An electric switch cannot be partially-engaged, it's either on or off unless it is damaged or failed.

 

[CalG]

The official

An electric switch cannot be partially-engaged, it's either on or off unless it is damaged or failed.

"Sparky" lexicon is "intermittent".

Yah, Some times.....

 

[Jstpssng]

An electric switch cannot be partially-engaged, it's either on or off unless it is damaged or failed.

I have it happen often. The PTO lever is off, but the switch isn't quite in the right position.

If you had read further you would see that I answered my own question.

 

[Flogger]

Get a chain under the bucket and tie to the tractor axle or frame. Push the loader lift control full forward into the float position and winch away.

 

[JC2398]

Update: Got it running…Ended up being the seat safety switch. I bought a bypass on Amazon ($11 for a three pack). I’ve got a thread on this in the Kioti forum with more details.


Thanks to all for the suggestions though. Lot of great info for future reference.