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/ There must be a better way #22  
There is no problem with covering the lids. You just have to know where they are to begin with.
 
/ There must be a better way #23  
I guess there is one advantage to living in New England. About this time of year when it is just starting to think about getting warm the tank outline shows through the snow from the heat being given off by the digestive processes in the tank. That area is always the first clear spot.

Eric
 
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Success at last,

A friend bought a pipe locater and showed us where to look.

A great big thanks for all the helpful suggestions.

The people on TBN are the greatest.

It is also very interesting to see some of the different thoughts, or different way things are done, coming from different locals. I am always learning something from my fellow tbn'ers.
 
/ There must be a better way #25  
You are going to be smart and leave the lid uncovered after the tank is pumped out aren't you?
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I owned my own housing company for 33 years.
Never did cover up the lid/never had a problem finding one years later either- winder why
 
/ There must be a better way #26  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You are going to be smart and leave the lid uncovered after the tank is pumped out aren't you?
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I owned my own housing company for 33 years.
Never did cover up the lid/never had a problem finding one years later either- winder why
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LBrown,

Why in the world would you leave the lid exposed?

It's not only ugly, but unless he creates a manhole to build up the access hole, it's also dangerous.

A hole in the ground that collects water and runnoff isn't very smart, not to mention the chance of falling into it.

Even then, it's an invitation to kids to open it up and play around.

Bury it and put a flat stone or paver over the spot and forget about it. It's not something you need to get into on a regular basis, and in allot of cases, you can go quite a few years between pumping.

This just makes no sense to me why you would suggest it was smart to leave the lid exposed.

Eddie
 
/ There must be a better way #27  
Not only once but three times he brought it up, not to bad for a twenty nine post thread.

Common sense would dictate that you would cover up a hole in the ground, but not everyone has it I guess. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
/ There must be a better way #29  
My brother had his septic tank pumped out last summer.
Didn't have any trouble finding it.
The lid wasn't covered up which made a big difference in the ease of finding the opening.

You guys may think it's stupid but we're not the ones hunting for our septic tanks.
 
/ There must be a better way #30  
<font color="blue"> LBrown,

Why in the world would you leave the lid exposed?

It's not only ugly, but unless he creates a manhole to build up the access hole, it's also dangerous.

A hole in the ground that collects water and runnoff isn't very smart, not to mention the chance of falling into it.

Even then, it's an invitation to kids to open it up and play around.

*Bury it and put a flat stone or paver over the spot and forget about it. It's not something you need to get into on a regular basis, and in allot of cases, you can go quite a few years between pumping.

**This just makes no sense to me why you would suggest it was smart to leave the lid exposed.

Eddie
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Around here the tanks are designed to be accessed from above ground so there is no useful purpose in burying the lids.

*The lid makes this unnecessary.
Pumping out the tank isn't the only reason for getting into the tank as there is also the issue of repairing or replacing the septic tank pump.

**Like I said my brother had his pumped out last summer. In less than an hour they had it done. Compare this with 2 days for this job.
So it makes lots of sense.
 
/ There must be a better way #31  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You guys may think it's stupid but we're not the ones hunting for our septic tanks. )</font> Ouch. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ There must be a better way #32  
lbrown,

Sounds like you're comparing your system to a different type of setup. Telling them to be smart and not bury there cover again because your brothers tank is that way isn't very helpful, and is quite rude.

His cover is buried in the ground by design. Leaving it uncovered creates all sorts of hazards and may lead to future issues by contaminates entering his tank as well.

You ignored these questions I asked and only addressed the part that applied to your brothers situation, which has no bearing on this thread.

Now that he's found the opening, I'm sure it will be marked so it's easily found again in the futre. Once you know where it is, digging it up is relatively easy.

Eddie
 
/ There must be a better way #33  
About this time of year when it is just starting to think about getting warm the tank outline shows through the snow from the heat being given off by the digestive processes in the tank. That area is always the first clear spot.

I have an Infra Red thermometer (point it & take a temp of whatever it is looking at) I got from Harbor Freight for $50 or so.

I wonder if this would be sensitive enough to find a septic tank by warmth even without snow. Just walk around early in the morning before the sun is up & look for a warm spot...
 
/ There must be a better way #34  
<font color="blue">Sounds like you're comparing your system to a different type of setup. Telling them to be smart and not bury there cover again because your brothers tank is that way isn't very helpful, and is quite rude.

His cover is buried in the ground by design. Leaving it uncovered creates all sorts of hazards and may lead to future issues by contaminates entering his tank as well.

You ignored these questions I asked and only addressed the part that applied to your brothers situation, which has no bearing on this thread.

Now that he's found the opening, I'm sure it will be marked so it's easily found again in the futre. Once you know where it is, digging it up is relatively easy.

Eddie
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Now that he's found the opening, I'm sure it will be marked so it's easily found again in the future. Once you know where it is, digging it up is relatively easy.
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The point I'm trying to make is here there are no covers on our tanks to be buried in the ground.
We must be talking about 2 different tank styles or designs.

Sorry I didn't mean to come off as rude.

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Since 1966 I've either installed or had installed several septic systems and seen many more others.
Not once have any of them had buried access lids.
So naturally I would question this thing about covered access ports as discussed in this thread.

Burying my septic tank man hole cover would be as dumb as burring my man hole cover on my water meter pit.
You just don't do a silly thing like that.
 
/ There must be a better way #35  
When we were looking at rural houses around here there seemed to be two styles of tanks. If the tank had an electric pump setup the cover extended above grade about 6" and had a cover that was chained and locked. If the septic tank was conventional gravity design the access cover was buried. The cover for the place we bought was buried about 1-1/2 feet and was a simple concrete lid. At the mandatory pumping and inspection for the sale, a riser with a sealed cover was installed. This riser came within 6" of grade. The digging will be easier now. It is marked with a landscape paver.
 
/ There must be a better way #36  
<font color="blue"> We must be talking about 2 different tank styles or designs </font> That's my bet .... septic tank pump??? never heard that one. Mine works by gravity and my tank is buried with the lid about 18" down... there's a nylon string tied to the lid and a rock on the surface.
 
/ There must be a better way #37  
Gravity is the kind we have at our place. Others such as mounds and some leach fields have two tanks, the regular septic tank and a receiver tank. The receiver tank takes the outflow from the septic tank and, using the pump, provides controlled doses of effluent to the bed. There are effluent filters somewhere in the system to prevent plugging the field.
 
/ There must be a better way #38  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Gravity is the kind we have at our place. Others such as mounds and some leach fields have two tanks, the regular septic tank and a receiver tank. The receiver tank takes the outflow from the septic tank and, using the pump, provides controlled doses of effluent to the bed. There are effluent filters somewhere in the system to prevent plugging the field. )</font>

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