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Thanks for providing the pricing. But, hey -- don't knock the PT for having a proprietary QA.

They had QA capability long before most everyone else... so they have to maintain backwards compatibility for their own products.

You'd think that if you just bought the Markham bucket without the skidsteer QA that it would be considerably less than the normal full price, though... there's almost as much metal in the skidsteer QA as there is in the bucket itself, not counting the welding and fab involved.
 
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KentT,
Markham's standard quick attach on their grubbing bucket has as little metal as possible beyond the 14"-28" bucket width to keep weight and cost down. There's less metal there than usually seen so I imagine it would be tough to knock much off on a custom request.

And you're right, there are multiple reasons they stick with some very nice PT attachment plate designs. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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PT's quick attach is so practical, you'd think they might go into the 3pt market. You know, sell a kit with the male plate on 3PT pins and a hydraulic top link, hydraulic locking cylinder for the Q.A., hoses and a two lever valve. I bet they could make the thing very sellable at $450.00. Then a hundred bucks a pop for the female plate to weld to any 3pt implement.
 
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I agree, Moss. I think there would be a market for front QA attachments also, in the sub-cut class. The skidsteer attachments are too heavy for that class of machine, just as they're too heavy for our smaller PTs...

As an example, I think the PT grapple bucket would sell to sub-CUT owners at its current price, if it would only fit...

The thing I like about the PT's QT system is that it is self-centering. Your alignment can be off several inches, side-to-side, and the angled sides of the plate will center the implement and still allow you to connect...

Speaking of which, I need to get a couple more QA plates -- I put the only one I had on my 48" boxblade. Too bad there's not an aftermarket source....
 
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Here are some pics of a new design quick plate that allows one to use 1/4" metal instead of 3/8". I believe it to be as stout and uses a larger plate. If the larger size is needed it works out pretty good.
 

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What the top was built of
 

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What the bottom was built of.
 

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I have five of these lying around incase an idea or a need pops up. I guess I could part with one or two. Especially for my friends here.
 

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Hate to take up so much room here but if you decide to build your own these dimensions were used.
 

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and these. just adapt them to the size square plate you use.
 

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Not to hijack the thread, but when I looked at the ToolCat, (VERY cool by the way...), I was reminded of something that Steiner came up with several years ago and still sells today.

It's a lot smaller, but the same concept! An articulating Utility Vehicle /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Steiner UtiliMax

And in action...

I think I would spend the additional 5k for the Bobcat though.
 
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Stray,

I like the looks of those plates. I PMed you...

Kent
 
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Hi Stray,

What a great design! Thanks for posting.

Sincerely,

Rob /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Thanks Rob. I sent both you guys a PM (KentT and smartguyz) Hope you all got it. If not let me know.
 
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Guys here is another pic of the plate. It might show the features a little better. The holes were already in the metal but shouldn't hurt a thing.
 

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Stray..thanks for the posts. It reminds me I gave some previous posts of this to a friend(they were yours I think) since he said he could fab a plate or 2 for me...well, that was last summer...hmmm, I wonder where they are?? LOL!
 
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Stray, Would you happen to know if the Quick-attach plates from all the PT's have the same measurements, but thicker steel for the larger units? My PT is a three point hook-up, and some day, I hope to convert every thing to the Quick-attach plates or something similar.
 
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Farmall140 You're more that welcome and I would say you're plates are in the planning stage. I have a lot of projects like that. LOL

And J. J. No I sure don't know about the dimensions of the larger plates. I just assumed that they would be larger as well as thicker. It would be interesting to know for sure though.
 
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Hi guys -

FYI I just spoke to Scott at PT, who was gracious enough to call me back twice. I explained the idea of this 'gardening, or grubbing bucket', and he seemed encouraging. He will check with the design staff and see if they are interested in building such a creature. Perhaps there is hope without needing to spend so much money for those of us who always seem to be digging up shrubs, trees, and bushes and replanting!

Seems like an ideal tool for their target market of landscapers.

Sincerely,

Rob /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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JJ,
The 180 plate I know is smaller (not as wide, can't remember height) than the 4xx series QA plate. I think the steel used is the same thinkness though.
 

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