sunk jinma

Soundguy · Aug 4, 2005

I was taking a seal kit out to our mechanic on the job yesterday, And had to drive down a few back roads in a very rural farming community. Access path for our job is back behind a bunch of farms, and we are more or less driving thru old cow pastures.. etc. Ground was a bit soft. My dodge truck was sinking 6" easilly. Had to keep moving.. thought 4wd was gonna be needed in the non-grassed areas. On my way in.. I noticed a canopy behind a set of hedges.. I thought it was a tad big to be a lawnmower canopy.. but it was setting sort of low. On my way out.. I drove by the hedgerow and leaned over.

I saw a jinma.. ( didn't get model number.. but looke dto be a 2xx unit.. had 4wd.. was high centered.. tires well muddied. Owner must have abandoned it there to let the place dry up.

There were a bunch of other tractors at other farms..Ford 7000, cut MF, etc.. but most were parked.. The only one I saw actually traversing the muck was a 70's model JD.. looke dto be a hi-clearance model... Aparently the tires were tall enough to simply dig furrows and hit hard ground 6"-8" down. For the most part.. looked like all the tire tracks from the pasture were heading out! Guess the poor owner of the jinma missed the rain report that day!

I sure hope it dry's up some. . the tractor was clean looking except for the knee deep mud... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Soundguy

ByronBob · Aug 4, 2005

You can bounce a golfball off the ground here in WNY and have it hit you in the head. Dry as a bone here.

Is this common for Fla this time of year to sink tractors in the mud?

hbaird · Aug 4, 2005

A close boyhood friend had an uncle sink a D6 Cat about 300 yards from their home in northwest LA. There was a series of photos showing the event from tread down to the seat top vanishing into the sandy mud. The area abounds in wet weather springs and very sandy soil going down hundreds of feet. And yes, the Cat was lost.
Harold

SkyPup · Aug 4, 2005

We just had 3.5" of deluge in less than 90 minutes last night about 4:30-6:00PM and a tornado (actually a waterspout since it is now flooded) spotted out on Paynes Prairie. This makes over 9 inces of rain in the last week just from thunderstorm supercells.

Can't wait for the 18-21 named tropical storms and hurricanes that NOAA is predicting..... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Soundguy · Aug 4, 2005

Yep.. for all of may and some of july we had rain every day.. then had 2 weeks to dry out.. now it's raining every day.. or every other day again.

Yep.. can't wait for the tornado's and hurricanes.. etc /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Soundguy

JINMA224XR · Aug 4, 2005

My dodge truck was sinking 6" easilly. Had to keep moving.. On my way in..
I saw a jinma.. ( didn't get model number.. but looked to be a 2xx unit.. had 4wd.. was high centered.. tires well muddied. Owner must have abandoned it there to let the place dry up.

There were a bunch of other tractors at other farms..Ford 7000, cut MF, etc.. but most were parked.. The only one I saw actually traversing the muck was a 70's model JD.. looked to be a hi-clearance model... Aparently the tires were tall enough to simply dig furrows and hit hard ground 6"-8" down. 

Hey SoundGuy,

It is always interesting to read your posts. Especially on 4Wd's and Jinma's.

It sure would have been nice if you could have given us more information, as to what exactly the type of work was trying to be performed in Knee Deep Mud . Did the Jinma have a frontend loader? What type of equipment was on the Rear of the Tractor?

On my days long ago, working on the farm, we used the 2wd Tall Rear wheeled tractors, sometimes, to cut water furrows in the fields, with the wheels/tires, to help drain the standing water off, but it was tricky type work, and we had to go backwards, as the front end would bury up in the mud.

Was the JD, 2wd or 4wd?, going frontwards or backwards thru the Knee Deep Mud?

I have no idea, what the Jinma Operator, was trying to accomplish, in those Wet Soil conditions, but it sounds like maybe, an inexperienced operator. The Jinma Tractors with their extremely low pricing is enableing lots and lots of first time tractor buyers to get into the market, and are learning as they go. Which is a good thing IMHO.

As far as seeing stuck tractors. I have seen personally many more 2wd's stuck, than I have seen 4wd's stuck.

Keep your eyes on those Jinma's though, they are selling almost as fast as they can unload them off the boats @ New Orleans. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Get your Tractors Running &
Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

TruChaos · Aug 5, 2005

I can remember riding dirt bikes as a teenager. We would pass a local swamp near my house. One day as we passed it, we saw a 4x4 stuck to the axles in the mud (the dirt bikers knew to stay out of that swamp). Then later, we saw a tow truck stuck up to it's axles, then a second tow truck stuck to it's axles. The last we saw was a Caterpillar bulldozer with tracks arriving to pull them out. The next day, all were gone from the swamp. It must have done the job.

vetteman · Aug 6, 2005

From my 30 plus years of farming one thing I know is if you get a 2wd tractor stuck it usually isnt that stuck but if you have a 4wd stuck usually you are really STUCK and it takes a BIG tractor to get you out.

Soundguy · Aug 8, 2005

( It sure would have been nice if you could have given us more information, as to what exactly the type of work was trying to be performed in Knee Deep Mud )

/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Wow.. I almost hate posting here cause' it feels like I get dog-piled on and picked at... Almost have to go on the defensive as soon as I get a post out.... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I'm sorry i didn't wade across the obviously wet/deep pasture to get more tractor/owner info.. or didn't hunt down the owner /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

What I know: I was driving in while working.. the tractor was driving across a pasture that was obviously wet.. It was not a mud-field.. it was a cow pasture that was too-soft.. the tractor was leaving ruts.. the ruts eventially got too deep for the tires.. the tractor high centered.. with the front being pretty much 'into' the ground. Looke dlike a 4' mower on the rear. No loader. Tires were agg tires.. so I'll 'guess' 4wd.

( I have no idea, what the Jinma Operator, was trying to accomplish, in those Wet Soil conditions, but it sounds like maybe, an inexperienced operator. )

It's been raining here alot.. I'd guess he needed to get some grass mowed.. and got unlucky. Most all of the other tractors i saw were parked.. so.. maybee it was an operator experience issue.

By the way.. I dodn't post this to imply that the jinma couldn't 'cut' it as a tractor. I'm fully sure that the ford I saw ( low profile tractor) would also have been hopelessly mired to the frame as well.. as it is even heavier.. and didn't have hi-clearance tires... same with the MF I saw. Both would be pasture ornamants.

( Was the JD, 2wd or 4wd?, going frontwards or backwards thru the Knee Deep Mud?
)

Looked like a 2wd hi-crop model... it was cutting furrows.. dragging a rickety looking 15' batwing... forwards.

And again.. this was not a mud covered 'arena'.. it was cow pasture we were all driving thru.. obviously wetter in some areas.. And it was almost completely grassed .. except for the rutted areas.

( As far as seeing stuck tractors. I have seen personally many more 2wd's stuck, than I have seen 4wd's stuck. )

It's been my opinion that 4wd vehicles just get stuck 'farther from home' than 2wd vehicles.

The only tractor I've ever stuck was my only 4wd tractor.. a NH 1920... As for heavy equipment.. I'd say it's pretty much even numbers... when the grounds wet.. everything sticks.. even some narrow tread dozers..

/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif This was meant to be a 'I saw a jinma today' post.... you know.. light hearted.. fun... guess that went out the door ....

Soundguy

Soundguy · Aug 8, 2005

( From my 30 plus years of farming one thing I know is if you get a 2wd tractor stuck it usually isnt that stuck but if you have a 4wd stuck usually you are really STUCK and it takes a BIG tractor to get you out. )

Ditto.. 4wd and stuck..== REALLY stuck.

I've seen pics of tractors and combines pulled in HALF while trying to be pulled out from being stuck..

Soundguy