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[Williy]

IMHO metal roof is the best way to go. Hail will go threw shingles
but not the metal. Also last time I checked the price was a few cents
difference. Also it takes less time to install a metal roof.

willy

 

[4570Man]

IMHO metal roof is the best way to go. Hail will go threw shingles
but not the metal. Also last time I checked the price was a few cents
difference. Also it takes less time to install a metal roof.

willy

Standing seam is a different animal from the basic ribbed metal that most people use but I see a lot of problems with the ribbed metal. It tends to fade and look horrible in just a few years. The rubber around the screws is prone to leaking in just a few years. And maybe a good roofer could reduce the next issues but any disruptions in a metal roof like a roof vent or valley tend to cause leaks.

 

[34Willys]

When we bid out our house with our contractor, the metal roof cost was more than twice the cost of shingled. House didn't happen.
Patrick

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

I recently went with standing seam. Twice ribbed/screw metal price. I had it insulated also and heavy rain last night barely could hear it. I'm sure heating bill was less also.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

y’all in luck, EA just announced their new line of AR400 steel shingles. They make them lighter by punching holes in the shingles. Don’t miss the special introductory offer by entering code RUNTEDD at checkout.

 

[4570Man]

When we bid out our house with our contractor, the metal roof cost was more than twice the cost of shingled. House didn't happen.
Patrick

Locally ribbed metal is priced pretty comparable to architectural shingles. Architectural shingles are by far better IMO. Standing seam is high dollar. It’s several times the cost of the other options.

 

[Jstpssng]

If I was going to put a metal roof on a house it would be standing seam. I have no desire to crawl around up there every few years fixing screws. One drawback to metal is that if you do have a fire, it's harder to vent. The simplest solution to that is to not have a fire.
We're served by a volunteer fire department 20 miles away. All they would save is my cellar, anyways.

I just think metal is ugly.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

Standing seam is a different animal from the basic ribbed metal that most people use but I see a lot of problems with the ribbed metal. It tends to fade and look horrible in just a few years. The rubber around the screws is prone to leaking in just a few years. And maybe a good roofer could reduce the next issues but any disruptions in a metal roof like a roof vent or valley tend to cause leaks.

Not that it has any bearing in this thread but those leaks can be avoided by simply putting the screws in the ridge, either pre-drill or take a sharp pointed punch or nail to start the hole in the ridge, this keeps the hole smooth and will not damage the rubber seal on the screw, water can't stand on a ridge but it can surely run and leak in the flat.

 

[LiveDog]

It seems the EA issue is not an orderly Chapter 11 bankruptcy under which the company continuous to operate until things get sorted out.

There are reports of no employees at the site.

There are rules wrt filing for bankruptcy and the owner may not have been able to do so. But I did not stay at a Holiday Inn last so will not play attorney...?????

I am 99% sure that under a Chapter 11 filing, current orders would still be filled and that does not appear to be happening.

IMO the EA goose is stuffed, cooked, left in the oven too long and not edible.

The case will be converted to a Chap. 7



What does being converted to Chap. 7 mean?

 

[workinonit]

Chapter 7 is a reset I believe. Chapter 11 is a restructure. I think I have those correct.

 

[HayFarmer]

From cornell.edu:
Business entities are eligible for Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Businesses generally file for chapter 7 liquidation when there is no possibility of achieving profitability under a chapter 11 reorganization. A chapter 7 bankruptcy terminates the company's operations and takes the company completely out of business.

 

[shooterdon]

HayFarmer has it right.

Like I said, EA is done. The Fat Lady has sung.

It is interesting that the Chapter 11 route was not taken. Someone decided that there was very little chance of EA being a viable business after reorganization. Think about that.

 

[Jstpssng]

HayFarmer has it right.

Like I said, EA is done. The Fat Lady has sung.

It is interesting that the Chapter 11 route was not taken. Someone decided that there was very little chance of EA being a viable business after reorganization. Think about that.

Why should he, when he has millions of other people's dollars to live on.

 

[jyoutz]

Not that it has any bearing in this thread but those leaks can be avoided by simply putting the screws in the ridge, either pre-drill or take a sharp pointed punch or nail to start the hole in the ridge, this keeps the hole smooth and will not damage the rubber seal on the screw, water can't stand on a ridge but it can surely run and leak in the flat.

That’s what we did on my steel roof. Been up about 8 years now with no problems. And I haven’t had to replace any more asphalt shingles that were blown off in spring winds like I used to do every year.

 

[shooterdon]

Why should he, when he has millions of other people's dollars to live on.

If he diverted funds from the company to his personal account, or to purchase personal assets, he will lose them plus get some close and personal time with Bubba in the iron bar hotel.

It is not very Christian of me, but he needs to suffer. A lot of folks got screwed and there should be a price paid. Not talking about folks who got their money refunded by CC companies and were inconvenienced, but those who lost thousands of dollars.

I stopped paying with checks decades ago for this reason. And I have never wanted anything badly enough to wait months to get it. Well...there was this one girl...

 

[LiveDog]

Claims and supporting documentation should be sent to Lt. Clark, 828-464-4698, Robert.Clark@ConoverNC.gov... Investigation is VERY active/on-going... In addition to banks, contractors, vendors, and employees, there are 56 individual customer claimants thus far...

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

But all those "valued" customers

 

[Lineman North Florida]

Claims and supporting documentation should be sent to Lt. Clark, 828-464-4698, Robert.Clark@ConoverNC.gov... Investigation is VERY active/on-going... In addition to banks, contractors, vendors, and employees, there are 56 individual customer claimants thus far...

Glad to see you finally did it, there was zero chance waiting around on them to call you " one of their most valued customers" back, but at least this way there may be a small chance to recover some of the money that they hi-jacked from you, and maybe a better chance to help them prosecute the guilty party.

 

[DerMann]

A family this corrupt (Ted, Charles, Son) must have allowed the businesses themselves to be run professionally while they skimmed money out of it, because as far as I know, their products were always top notch.

Seems very odd to me - just look at Boeing. Boeing products went downhill rapidly while the Wall Street Financiers ran it, starting with W. James McNerney (Jack Welch GE acolyte) in 2005.

 

[IXLR8]

A family this corrupt (Ted, Charles, Son) must have allowed the businesses themselves to be run professionally while they skimmed money out of it, because as far as I know, their products were always top notch.

Be careful who you lump into this mess. Ted is as crooked as can be and has been most of his life. From everybody I have talked with, his brother Charles is as honest as they come. I have no idea on the son.