Starlink

[KilroyJC]

True, but it also isn't uncommon for different manufacturers, their WiFi hardware, and their wifi drivers have different behaviors under similar network conditions. I've seen different vintage Samsung products behave differently. Ditto different versions of Android.

@KilroyJC there is also the option of gifting your wife an iPhone and an iPad...

All the best,

Peter

We are thinking of changing cellphone providers and the intended provider’s current smartphone offering is an iPhone 14.

now then, Mrs is not exactly an”technophobe“, but she and technology are *not exactly* on friendly terms. . . When I got her Moro-Z, she hated it, and after almost two years of BMC’ing about it, we switched to flip phones. about Two years after that, she started having problems with her Samsung tablet and began using the Droid as a WiFi device. Then about a year ago she began BMC’ing about the flip phone being a PITA because it didn’t have enough functionality (not her words…) so I recently reactivated the Droid on our cell account. . . This little episode has had her agitated again. . . Meanwhile:

————-UPDATE—————

I performed a factory reset and reattached everything to the network, and (—so far—) her devices are operating properly. We will see what happens when she wakes up this morning. . .

 

[ponytug]

We are thinking of changing cellphone providers and the intended provider’s current smartphone offering is an iPhone 14.

now then, Mrs is not exactly an”technophobe“, but she and technology are *not exactly* on friendly terms. . . When I got her Moro-Z, she hated it, and after almost two years of BMC’ing about it, we switched to flip phones. about Two years after that, she started having problems with her Samsung tablet and began using the Droid as a WiFi device. Then about a year ago she began BMC’ing about the flip phone being a PITA because it didn’t have enough functionality (not her words…) so I recently reactivated the Droid on our cell account. . . This little episode has had her agitated again. . . Meanwhile:

————-UPDATE—————

I performed a factory reset and reattached everything to the network, and (—so far—) her devices are operating properly. We will see what happens when she wakes up this morning. . .

Thanks for the smile. I can relate. Big time, but I am sworn to secrecy.

The Starlink router is on another release. Starlink had me pull the ethernet adapter, and in I the first four hours, I don't see a difference. There are some recent posts about corrosion within the proprietary connectors by a knowledgeable EE , who believes it may be a combination of water, contact resistance, and the high power demands on the connector contacts. He also lays out some reasons on why you might want an Ethernet adapter, even if you don't use the Ethernet wiring (added surge suppression).

FWIW: You can reboot just the WiFi portion of the Starlink router.

All the best,

Peter

 

[KilroyJC]

Thanks for the smile. I can relate. Big time, but I am sworn to secrecy.

The Starlink router is on another release. Starlink had me pull the ethernet adapter, and in I the first four hours, I don't see a difference. There are some recent posts about corrosion within the proprietary connectors by a knowledgeable EE , who believes it may be a combination of water, contact resistance, and the high power demands on the connector contacts. He also lays out some reasons on why you might want an Ethernet adapter, even if you don't use the Ethernet wiring (added surge suppression).

FWIW: You can reboot just the WiFi portion of the Starlink router.

All the best,

Peter

I did get the Ethernet adapter, and it is installed simply so I don’t lose it I think I have enough cable to relocate th unit from the laundry room to a central location in the house, I just need to find time to muck about in the crawl space and cut a hole in the wall and mount a plate for the wire to come out neatly.

I did not know that there was a way to reboot just the WiFi - thanks!

 

[newbury]

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Well within specifications and much better than DSL, but not exactly fiber.

Happy customer here.

All the best,

Peter

Well I've got fiber. I was overjoyed at getting "100 up&down" for $55/month, so I didn't go the SL route.
Well my fiber started out with those speeds, but now during peak use times it drops to about 25 up&down

Still a lot better than the 7 down 0.7 up I used to get with my old DSL for about the same price.

I am very curious in what world starlink is faster than fiber. Fiber is typically approaching 1gbps, where starlink is under 100mbps.

The real world.

 

[KilroyJC]

I haven’t run a speed test in a couple weeks, here is my result from th one I just did.

And to think we had to put up with DSL at 1.6/.04 for so many years!

 

[LouNY]

A tad bit different then mine;

 

[scootr]

Oh yeah - I'm getting 106 up 4-10 down when nobody is on it... and bad internet connection warnings with sketchy voice and video at prime time. So you can say the product is oversold. Which is why we are pissed about getting a rate increase and a data limit this past year. Not exactly what we signed up for. If we quit can we loose our $700 investment. Cell pone is the only alternative we have.

 

[Boss 302]

Doesn't surprise me at all, maybe his lobbyist need to hold their hands out some more.

 

[Boss 302]

Doesn't surprise me at all, maybe his lobbyist need to hold their hands out some more.

 

[cqaigy2]

Speaking of device disconnects. I've seen where different devices don't handle dhcp well,and when the time to renew comes alongs, sometimes they just don't renew and just drop their ip address. Mostly cheap older chips, typically 100Mb connection speeds, but have run into some that did 1Gb as well. Only fix for them was to static assign address.

 

[Torvy]

It seems to me that businesses charge different prices regionally all of the time. What seems to be the sticking point here is that Skylink actually was honest about it. I get the perspective that makes some people feel they are subsidizing others. Personally, I find it refreshing that a business spells out the truth. We choose how we respond.

As for service issues, I have used at least 10 different ISPs in four different markets in the US. All have issues. I will not go back to AT&T unless they are the only way to reconnect online. Hopefully, the technical problems will be resolved soon.

 

[plowhog]

Dishy got behind on the auto snow melt function this morning and we lost signal for ninety minutes or so. That may, or may not, be related to an OS update that may have turned off the heating during the reboot. It was only just below freezing, but we did get 4-6" overnight, preceded by freezing rain.

My SL antenna is temporarily sitting in a pasture awaiting a new mount. It's surrounded by at least a foot of snow and all still working well. Surprising since it did fall behind on snow melt before.

btw, just checked ping times to 100.64.0.1. Two computers, side by side, an older Win 7 machine had 41ms ping, a newer Win 10 machine was 29ms. 0% loss on either.

 

[plowhog]

Starlink seems to imply that Dishy is 100.64.0.1, but I think that address is actually hosted at a ground station somewhere

Could you cover the antenna and see what a ping returns?

 

[BigBlue1]

I am very curious in what world starlink is faster than fiber. Fiber is typically approaching 1gbps, where starlink is under 100mbps.

The world where ISP service is sold in various pricing/performance tiers and is independent of the max technical threshold of the transmission medium. Fiber _can_ support 1Gb/s. That doesn't mean that even though an ISP connects your house to their network via fiber that you automatically get/pay for their top tier speeds. The ISP may have bottlenecks elsewhere in their system that reduces from max performance too.

 

[ponytug]

Could you cover the antenna and see what a ping returns?

Great idea, but I will try it when the access to the antenna is a little safer. Wet roof, snow, mud...

 

[KilroyJC]

A tad bit different then mine;
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I have noticed that time of day makes a difference - here we are about 11 hours later:

 

[KilroyJC]

True, but it also isn't uncommon for different manufacturers, their WiFi hardware, and their wifi drivers have different behaviors under similar network conditions. I've seen different vintage Samsung products behave differently. Ditto different versions of Android.

@KilroyJC there is also the option of gifting your wife an iPhone and an iPad...

All the best,

Peter

Update:

proposed new carrier has added the 2022 Moto G Power, so that is what Mrs will get, since she does not have to really learn anything new, since she currently has a 2016 Moto Z. Slightly different size, lighter, better battery life. BUT more plastic construction, 720 instead of 1080.

she insists I get the iPhone and retire my flip phone. Probably because she is tired of all the photography duties. . .

 

[scootr]

Exactly. Like clockwork service is diminished significantly at peak hours.
Starlink is awesome if you want to set the alarm for 2am to use it

 

[KilroyJC]

Exactly. Like clockwork service is diminished significantly at peak hours.

Even at its worst, it blows the pants off the DSL. And the connection is stable. I had more dropped connections over the copper in a day that I have had in any two week period with SL - and those drops have been all under 6 seconds (except for the one 45-minute long one I mentioned last week —- and withDSL sometimes we would lose it for hours at a time)

 

[WoodChuckDad]

As some mentioned recently, here. I noticed that my dish is pointed more easterly than before. A significant change in position. This is new. I will do some speed tests tomorrow.