Spreading gravel

/ Spreading gravel #21  
I maintain a private road that is one mile long. About 3 years ago I started to purchase class five replacement gravel delivered by a belly dump truck because it was cheaper per yard that way. The bottom line is that having it delivered in that fashion really does provide for a very nice crown on the roadway. I spread it a little with the back of the back mounted blade on my JD 4400 and in no time I am done. You can request the driver to set the dump rate by adjusting the chains on the dump doors so you don't get too much crown. I definitely will continue to purchase the replacement gravel delivered in belly load trucks verses traditional dump trucks.
 
/ Spreading gravel #22  
Y'all are making me jealous!
Our driveway is so challenging that we can only get gravel delivered by tandem dump trucks!

It takes about (6) 17 ton loads to completly coat the drive 4 inches by 8 feet wide.
And that means it costs us almost a complete load just for delivery!


J
 
/ Spreading gravel #23  
I just cal the driver I want, pay him. That way I get it done the way I want it! ~~ grnspot110
 
/ Spreading gravel #24  
Picker77 - nice job spreading the gravel.:thumbsup: How did you spread it? Did you pick up buckets of rock with your FEL, drive to the place you wanted it and then dump it and smooth it with your FEL or did you back up to the piles with your back blade up, drop your back blade and grade it out that way? Or did you use a combination of both (or some other way)?

I've seen video of a guy doing it the second way, but it didn't look too safe. He was using an old Ford without a ROPS, charging back up onto a 5 of 6 foot pile of rock and then using his back blade.

I'm going to re-gravel my driveway this spring and have never done it before. My driveway is about 80 feet long and about a 12 foot elevation drop from the road down to the end of the driveway. Any suggestions anyone has would be appreciated.
 
/ Spreading gravel #25  
SBB said:
Picker77 - nice job spreading the gravel.:thumbsup: How did you spread it? Did you pick up buckets of rock with your FEL, drive to the place you wanted it and then dump it and smooth it with your FEL or did you back up to the piles with your back blade up, drop your back blade and grade it out that way? Or did you use a combination of both (or some other way)?

I've seen video of a guy doing it the second way, but it didn't look too safe. He was using an old Ford without a ROPS, charging back up onto a 5 of 6 foot pile of rock and then using his back blade.

I'm going to re-gravel my driveway this spring and have never done it before. My driveway is about 80 feet long and about a 12 foot elevation drop from the road down to the end of the driveway. Any suggestions anyone has would be appreciated.

That short... if 8 feet wide have him drop a little at the top and tailgate spread on the way out.
Then pretty it up with the tractor..
Use a box blade, back spread with the bucket..

My gravel guy always says his load is about 100 feet by 8 feet x about 4 inches...
~ 16 tons...
 
/ Spreading gravel #26  
I maintain about 800' of private lane for me and two neighbors. Last time I had gravel delivered it came in a pair of belly-dump semis, and they laid the gravel down in two very long skinny piles by cracking the belly doors part way and driving slowly away. Except for a bit of a dicey balancing act on top of the piles to shear off the top of the piles with the box blade (go very slow and watch the steering!), those long continuous piles made spreading a piece of cake, and I was done in two or three hours.

Yesterday, when 52 tons of crusher run arrived in two trucks from the same outfit, they had upgraded to brand new Peterbilt tractors (nice trucks, btw) with end gate trailers instead of belly dumps. I asked if they could crack the end gate, partially elevate the bed, and spread the gravel by driving slow like tandem axle dumpers can do. No such luck, they considered that too dangerous (rollover concerns), so instead dumped it in a seemingly endless series of piles about 30' apart the entire length of the lane. There were 20+ piles. The before photo shows a few of them. Spreading from piles like this was much more time consuming--but probably somewhat safer--than the old way. Had to put six hours on the 3032E's meter and a serious crick in my neck, but it's pretty much done except for some minor smoothing to do later after it packs down a little from rain and traffic. And as a bonus the lane has a decent crown again.

Having Top and Tilt made a world of difference in repairing the crown of this lane. This job gave the loader and box blade their first serious workouts since new, and the JD 3032E performed in stellar fashion.

With that outfit, I wouldn't spread it either, and I suspect that those saying, the drivers didn't know what they were doing, missed the part in the original post that they were using trailers.:eek:
 
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#27  
Picker77 - nice job spreading the gravel.:thumbsup: How did you spread it?

I'm going to re-gravel my driveway this spring and have never done it before. My driveway is about 80 feet long and about a 12 foot elevation drop from the road down to the end of the driveway. Any suggestions anyone has would be appreciated.

I have a tooth bar on my FEL, so I just curled the bucket down a bit short of vertical and started digging in and backing up a few feet, flattening the piles like big elongated pancakes in the general direction I wanted them (ie, toward each other). The tips of the tooth bar's teeth gave me a fairly consistent depth for the initial pile-spreading. Once all the piles were pancaked, I just went to work with my 5-1/2' box blade to blend them together, and used the HSL to do the crowning.

Lots of instant opinions on here on gravel, but my experience has been 4" is a bit too deep in one shot. Deep gravel (at least with crusher run) tends to "mush" to each side of tire tracks when driven on, almost like driving in mud--with the result being it doesn't pack as well or as quickly as a thinner layer, say 2" or so. I'd recommend a 2-3" layer, drive on it a few months and work it over several times with a blade, then follow with another thin layer. I used to subscribe to the "more is better" theory on gravel myself, but an old-timer motor grader operator for the county re-educated me a few years back, and I've found his advice to be right on.

BTW, a 12' drop in 80' is pretty steep to hold gravel in a heavy rain, so be sure you have a good crown and good drainage on each side. If water starts to channel in some tire ruts and that stuff starts to move downhill, it's all over. Don't ask how I know. :laughing:
 
/ Spreading gravel #28  
With that outfit, I wouldn't spread it either, and I suspect that those saying, the drivers didn't know what they were doing, missed the part in the original post that they were using trailers.:eek:

Yep.............I spent many years with a 30' dump. You do not spread with those unless you want them on their side.

You can spread with a 24' in some situations like a new road bed which is smooth and level.

I have seen more than one upset just because the load hung on one side while dumping and sitting still.
 
/ Spreading gravel #29  
I hadn't realized there was that much difference between a tandem and a dump trailer until I started reading this post. Good info.

Sean
 
/ Spreading gravel #30  
I thought these these dump beds had bin vibrators to help ensure the load doesn't stick?
 
/ Spreading gravel #31  
Yes, the concern they explained--which made sense to me--was having a large "stuck" clump of wet stuff at the front suddenly turn loose while the bed was high up. 10 or 12 tons of wet gravel suddenly sliding down a 45 degree slope and hitting the tailgate of a bed that's already 30 feet in the air (these were full length semi trailers) would provide some excitement, I'm sure.

They're gay. I had 20 tri-axle loads (480 tons) of 3/4" nitpack gravel delivered this past summer - which I think is pretty much the same stuff you are using - 3/4" crushed stone and tha balance stone dust. I had all of the loads spread using dump chains - they hold the tailgate with a chain so it only can open a foot or so. They raise the dump bed with the gate locked until it is just about all the way up, start driving then release the gate.

JayC
 
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They're gay. I had 20 tri-axle loads (480 tons) of 3/4" nitpack gravel delivered this past summer - which I think is pretty much the same stuff you are using - 3/4" crushed stone and tha balance stone dust. I had all of the loads spread using dump chains - they hold the tailgate with a chain so it only can open a foot or so. They raise the dump bed with the gate locked until it is just about all the way up, start driving then release the gate.

JayC


Hmmm... those guys looked just like regular heterosexual guys to me. Big 'ol Oklahoma downhome redneck boys, too. They'd probably both like to discuss that "gay" comment with you if they had the opportunity. :laughing:

Unless you are talking about tri-axle trailers, which I don't think I've seen before, maybe you overlooked my statement that these were 30' TRAILERS pulled by Peterbilt TRACTORS, not solid frame triple axle dump trucks. Quite a different animal.
 
/ Spreading gravel #34  
Really?
I'll check the load ticket.. We rode to the quarry together...
We might have put it thicker on that hill...

Did I mention he is a good family friend?
 
/ Spreading gravel #35  
Really?
I'll check the load ticket.. We rode to the quarry together...
We might have put it thicker on that hill...

Did I mention he is a good family friend?



Never less 800 square feet of material 4 inches thick is less than 10 cubic yards. That would be some heavy gravel at 3200 lbs/yd.
 
/ Spreading gravel #36  
Unless you are talking about tri-axle trailers, which I don't think I've seen before, maybe you overlooked my statement that these were 30' TRAILERS pulled by Peterbilt TRACTORS, not solid frame triple axle dump trucks. Quite a different animal.

Ahh...missed the trailer part. Don't know about them... <Emily Latella mode> Never mind - apologies to the heterosexual drivers.

JayC
 
/ Spreading gravel #37  
Really?
I'll check the load ticket.. We rode to the quarry together...
We might have put it thicker on that hill...

Did I mention he is a good family friend?

Nothing personal, just math. 100 feet by 8 feet x about 4 inches (0.3ft) = 240 sq. ft, or 8.9 cu yards, or ~11 tons.

16 tons would've laid the gravel down about 6" deep.

I just did 1100 feet of driveway 10-12' wide at 6" deep this summer. A load (18 yards, 24 tons) did roughly 75'. Between the drive and parking, I brought in and spread 20 loads.

JayC
 
/ Spreading gravel #38  
I agree trailers do not need to move when dumping so if I am to order when the ground is soild I make sure to deal with one with a dump truck and gate chains.

Have to say now with the back hoe the dump piles do not cause the same a stress. :D

Shaking out a thin layer was not hard to learn and saves a lot of time. Back grading with the loader overcomes the short wheel base issues with the box blade mirroring the highs/lows in causes where the float feature is not enough.
 
/ Spreading gravel #39  
In My area We use different terms. Can someone explain CRUSHER RUN? Thanks Tool
 
/ Spreading gravel #40  
Crushed stone: this is generally limestone or dolomite that has been crushed and graded by screens to certain size classes. It is widely used in concrete and as a surfacing for roads and driveways, sometimes with tar applied over it. Crushed stone may also be made from granite and other rocks. A special type of limestone crushed stone is dense grade aggregate, or DGA, also known as crusher run. This is a mixed grade of mostly small crushed stone in a matrix of crushed limestone powder.
 

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