Spencer's Pole Barn Project

[Spencer]

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Another view

 

[Spencer]

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Last picture of the shop addition roof. Besides the three pieces to finish off the one valley I only need to put about 20 pieces of plywood on this half of the main roof and then I will be ready to shingle. Those 20 or so pieces will be easy to put up. This shop addition roof is the last challenging piece of the puzzle (besides shingling the valleys).

Looking up with the plywood on the shop addition now it sure does look huge. That section of the barn will have almost 13' walls, the main barn will have 12' walls. All four of the overhead doors will be 10' high. I had my little Dodge Dakota parked under the shop addition roof last night and it sure did look tiny. I either built this barn too big or I need a bigger truck.

Spence

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You can see the difference in the color of the wood on the left. I had treated that earlier with the Thompson's water seal. I took this photo right before I treated the wood on the right side. It only cost me 33 bucks for 5 gallons of the stuff and I figure that is cheap insurance. Back in April when I bought the 1/2" plywood for the other half of the roof it cost me $8.65 a sheet from Menards. This weekend I paid $12.52 a sheet from Lowe's. I don't remember the brand name of the stuff from Mendards but I sure do like the Georgia Pacific plywood I got from Lowe's. It seems a lot more rigid and had less knots in it.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

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Shingling the valleys is easy so don't worry about it. We found the easiest way is to run one side up the valley all the way to the peak (in this case you will want to run the additions shingles first since it is lower). Just let the additions shingles lap up onto the other roof at least 12-18" so that you have good coverage. Once that is done you snap a line on the main roof up the valley about 2-3" from the center and when you shingle that roof you cut the shingles along the line. Mark the top and bottom of the shingle and cut it before you nail it so you don't slice the valley open (but you already knew that). When it is done it looks better then a two-cut and is much easier then a weave (even though a weave is actually quite easy but you need to run both sides of the valley at the same time which is easiest if you have help). Keep up the great work and don't worry about that valley. It is extremly easy to do. If you have any questions just read the shingle wrapper as they do a good job of explaining it for the average guy to understand. Or just post your question on here and I and a lot of others will do our best to answer it for you. Take care.

 

[Spencer]

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Robert, thanks for the advice on the shingles. I had a contractor give me his opinion on it a couple of weeks ago. He said to get some "Ice Shield" and also to run a piece of metal flashing that had an inverted "V" in the middle of it. He said to run my felt paper right up on the other roof (both ways). Then I think he said to put down the "Ice Shield". Then put the metal flashing with the inverted "V". Then when I put my shingles on cut them so they are about 2" away from the inverted "V".

I'm open for opinions and suggestions on shingling these valleys. We do get quite a bit of ice and snow on roofs here in Michigan so I want to do it right.

Spence

 

[Inspector507]

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I've always used the metal flashing in the valleys, but I'm no roofer, so others may have better advice. I like the looks of the metal myself /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Spencer]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I had my little Dodge Dakota parked under the shop addition roof last night and it sure did look tiny. I either built this barn too big or I need a bigger truck.
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I just went out and took a picture with my little Dakota parked in the 16' by 16' shop addition. I know I didn't build the barn too big so I guess I need a bigger truck. Too bad I can't afford one right now.

 

[Spencer]

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Here is a larger view of the right side of the barn to compare with that plan view I posted earlier. You can see I had a lot of trees to work around.

 

[Spencer]

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Here is the front view that you can compare to the plan front view I posted earlier. The whole left side of the barn including the lean-to have been shingled since April.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

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I have never been a fan of open valleys. The water and ice shield should be done and I should have mentioned that but I was only talking about shingles at the time. However, you can do the open valley with the metal but it is more work. Run the ice guard down the valley and do the one cut valley. It is much faster and looks a lot better as you don't have to mess with the metal in the valley or cutting two sides of shingles. But that is just my view on the matter but I have not heard any view that would sway me to using metal valleys.

 

[Spencer]

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I don't know if I ever showed you guys my tractor parked in the lean-to or not. At least my tractor has had a nice place to park for some time now. This lean-to also served as my temporary shop from January until about a month ago. I have my personnel lift on the tractor for lifting the plywood up onto the roof.

 

[Spencer]

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It feels like this project is taking for ever to get done. I dug up a photo from this time last year to show my progress.

Spence

 

[RobS]

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<font color="blue"> It feels like this project is taking for ever to get done </font>

Considering my pole barn is still in the wish stage, I'd say you're making tremendous progress Spence. It's a lot of fun watching along too. Keep it up /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Henro]

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Looking really good, Spencer.

Looking at the size of that barn, I am sure glad I got it right when I called that little roof my tractors are under a shed! No comparison!

You are just going to love it this year when the first snow comes and you are totally under roof!

Any plans to give your tractor its just reward and let it come out of that little lean to and under the main roof? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Spencer]

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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Any plans to give your tractor its just reward and let it come out of that little lean to and under the main roof? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif )</font>

Henro, I built the lean-to just for the tractor, so no, it will not be parked under the main roof for any length of time. I like to let my tractor warm up for quite a while before I use it. If I had it parked in the main barn with everything else I would be tempted to always start it up and immediately drive it outside so the fumes didn't accumulate inside. The lean-to will have no door on it so the tractor can run and run and I don't have to worry about fumes. Also I don't have to worry about hitting a door with the ROPS.

I am rewarding the tractor for all its hard work in helping me build the pole barn. Here is a picture of where that tractor got parked last winter. I think it will be quite happy in the lean-to compared to this. Oh man that looks cold /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[OkeeDon]

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Oh, man, do you actually go out in that stuff? Don't your legs get cold? Oh, wait, I forgot you don't wear shorts all year...

 

[EddieWalker]

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That picture of your tractor parked in the snow is just painful!

 

[KenNTx]

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I think he needs to park the tractor the other direction so he can plow his way out!!!!

 

[Slamfire]

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As I look at your photo of the completed valley, it is an elegant solution to the problem of making a valley when the main roof is made up of trusses. I'd never seen that before, you done good. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Henro]

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<font color="blue"> Back in April when I bought the 1/2" plywood for the other half of the roof it cost me $8.65 a sheet from Menards. This weekend I paid $12.52 a sheet from Lowe's. </font>

Last week I had a similar experience. I needed some of the cheaper plywood [cdx] and when I went to Home Depot the first thing I noticed was how flat and good looking the plywood was.

The second thing I noticed was that it was marked at $12 plus per sheet.

I was putting those three sheets on a cart, when another customer comes up and askes me about the plywood...says they say at the register that the price is almost $15 per sheet, is this what he thinks it is. Yes, it is...$15 can't be the right price for CDX I tell him.

After grabbing one other thing I needed, I am pushing the cart back up the isle and the price is gone from above the stack of plywood. The price comes up at $15 [appx] per sheet. I say it was marked at $12, which was still expensive, and they should sell it for what it was marked at...otherwise they can put it back. I guess this is the HD policy and they charged me the marked price...pretty nice stuff, but for what I needed it that day the lower quality, cheaper stuff would have been fine.

Wonder if anticipation of hurricane damage drove the price up?

 

[MadReferee]

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re: Henro

"Wonder if anticipation of hurricane damage drove the price up? "

An article appeared in the state wide newspaper a few weeks ago that said that the US Government had placed orders for over 1 million sheets of plywood to use in Iraq. This is causing a shortage which naturally causes the price to go up.

Once again the USA consumer takes it where the sun don't shine.