Solder question (on household copper pipe)

[Liquidsilver]

Flushing the toilet with hot water would be a whole different thing though. LOL (Glad you're almost to the end of the saga )

 

[radios1]

Flushing the toilet with hot water would be a whole different thing though. LOL (Glad you're almost to the end of the saga )

many people use a tempering valve on their toilets, so they get warm water in it. it's more comfortable and prevents the toilet from sweating, especially in the summer..

 

[4570Man]

many people use a tempering valve on their toilets, so they get warm water in it. it's more comfortable and prevents the toilet from sweating, especially in the summer..

I don’t see how that is going to work unless you have a small water heater directly under the toilet. The water isn’t going to warm up in the gallon the toilet uses.

 

[ponytug]

Sorry to hear about your issues, but it is consistent with the plumbing experiences I have had. Don't get me wrong; I have worked with great plumbers in the past, but right now, locally, I can't seem to find any, well for lack of a better term, talented ones.

I am in the process of converting bad (thin) copper to PEX. I think it is the way to go, especially if you use the Upnor / ProPEX band clamp system, where you get full flow. The only problem is you need a really expensive tool to install it.

Off topic a little: I'm kinda curious. You say your well is 100gpm. Do you actually pump it out at that rate? If so, what do use that much water for?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a 100gpm well.

All the best,

Peter

 

[kenmac]

I am surprised you use solder. All plumbers I know here use silver solder. Stronger I guess.

No one I know uses Silver solder. It doesn't flow like 95/5 does. and requires more heat

You have to use oxy/ acetylene to melt 15% silver .

The only time I would braze with silver solder is HVAC, or Gas lines which is required by code

I have used stay bright #8 on water lines, which has a higher silver content than normal solder, for a little stronger joint. And can be easily melted with map gas

But to use 15% silver rod and braze every water line joint. Naw..

 

[radios1]

Sorry to hear about your issues, but it is consistent with the plumbing experiences I have had. Don't get me wrong; I have worked with great plumbers in the past, but right now, locally, I can't seem to find any, well for lack of a better term, talented ones.

I am in the process of converting bad (thin) copper to PEX. I think it is the way to go, especially if you use the Upnor / ProPEX band clamp system, where you get full flow. The only problem is you need a really expensive tool to install it.

Off topic a little: I'm kinda curious. You say your well is 100gpm. Do you actually pump it out at that rate? If so, what do use that much water for?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a 100gpm well.

All the best,

Peter

I think it would take a 10HP. pump to do that!!.. 100GPM??..

 

[radios1]

I don’t see how that is going to work unless you have a small water heater directly under the toilet. The water isn’t going to warm up in the gallon the toilet uses.

something like this is used. Watts Premier Instant Hot Water Recirculating Pump System with Built-In Timer - Sump Pumps - Amazon.com

 

[Deere Dude]

I don’t see how that is going to work unless you have a small water heater directly under the toilet. The water isn’t going to warm up in the gallon the toilet uses.

Maybe midget toilets use one gallon. Mine uses probably 3-4 gallons just for one turd.

 

[Deere Dude]

I am surprised you use solder. All plumbers I know here use silver solder. Stronger I guess.

I use silver solder using propane torches with hi-heat nozzles and it works better and flows better than 95/5 solder. It takes about the same amount of heat as 95/5. I forget the exact name and percentage of silver.

 

[kenmac]

90% of the time, we used 95-5 which is 95% tin and 5% antimony.
I found that nothing flows around copper pipes better than 95/5

There is a product called stay bright #8 that that contains 94% tin and 6% silver. But in my opinion, doesn't flow to copper better than 95-5, and it does have a higher melting point due to the 6% silver content.
we used stay bright 8 from time to time