3-Point Hitch Size of disc harrow can a 25hp Kioti handle?

[Madlerp]

Sorry if this is a newbie question but hey I am one!
Need to know if a Kioti 25hst can handle a 6 foot disc harrow. Don't want to find out it can't once I buy it.
It handles a 5ft brush hog on hills.
Thanks!

Preston:confused3::confused3:

 

[nybirdman]

I would suggest a roto-tiller for that size tractor.One pass and done versus six or seven with discs.

 

[motownbrowne]

I agree about the tiller. If you are set on a disc, though, the answer is a resounding "maybe". First, there's a huge range of disc harrows available. Second, there's an equally huge variety of soil types and conditions. Third, what kind of tires you have will make a big difference. There's discs heavy enough, and soil hard enough that you'd want a 150 HP tractor on an 8' disc. There's light enough discs and sandy enough soil that your tractor could pull an 8'er.

 

[downslope]

How many blades and what diameter on the disc harrows you are are considering?
If it handles the 5 ft brush hog it should have no problem with a 20 blade disk where the disks are 18" diameter.
To pull it properly you will need wheel weights or ballasted tires.

Sorry if this is a newbie question but hey I am one!
Need to know if a Kioti 25hst can handle a 6 foot disc harrow. Don't want to find out it can't once I buy it.
It handles a 5ft brush hog on hills.
Thanks!

Preston:confused3::confused3:

 

[jenkinsph]

Another vote for a tiller, a forward rotation tiller 48" to 54" would be a good fit. I don't think you will be happy with a 6' disc you can't pull at full depth. A tiller will push the tractor forward as it works the soil but you can take full advantage of the engine power without the loss of traction and handling. A lot more compact and less room to store too.

 

[sweettractors]

Yet another vote for a roto tiller. If you decide on a disc, we have several new and used shown in the link below. Ken Sweet
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[TheMan419]

I am debating this very issue too. I have a New Holland 25 horse. I have come down on the side of the tiller. Still haven not found a used one near by. So may be getting a new one this week. Everything I have read is just that the SCUT does not have enough weight/power to pull a disc that is going to get any real work done.

As I think about having the tiller for the one project I know I need it for, I start to think about how useful it will be with a few other projects I have in mind down the road..... like digging out the topsoil to put in a road (well ok driveway, but same diff).

Wife wants an out door riding arena. Again step one - remove top soil. Tilling it first will make removal easier with tractor and bucket.

 

[jeff9366]

How many blades and what diameter on the disc harrows you are are considering?
If it handles the 5 ft brush hog it should have no problem with a 20 blade disk where the disks are 18" diameter.
To pull it properly you will need wheel weights or ballasted tires.

I have sandy-loam in Florida. The OP probably has relatively tough plains soil in Colorado.
I have owned/operated a Howse 16/18" Disc Harrow with 9" pan spacing.
In my opinion a 3,000 pound, bare tractor, CK25 will pull a similar Disc Harrow in 4-WD mode performing SECONDARY TILLAGE easily. A lighter tractor would stall. It probably would take AT LEAST two passes with a Disc Harrow with 18" diameter pans to mix and level previously plowed, plains soil.

A Disc Harrow with 18" diameter pans will be unable to break new ground in PRIMARY TILLAGE, regardless of tractor.
It takes a Disc Harrow with minimum 22" pans to perform PRIMARY TILLAGE tasks, better 24" pans.

A PTO powered roto-tiller will probably perform your (unspecified) tasks better.

I might make a different recommendation if OP is more specific on the tasks he wants to accomplish and how deep he wants to penetrate his soil.


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[ A Rotary Cutter/Bush Hog is NOT a ground contact implement. An R/C is supported above the ground by the tractor tires and R/C tail wheel.]

 

[Tigershark]

I have a 40HP Kioti with a 7 ft Disc (old 1950s) solid, heavy cast disc, it is hard to break up new ground for my 40HP Kioti it will do it but it really works the tractor and I have to make multiple passes over and over, I wouldn't want to try with much less HP. It takes a lot to disc up new ground plus the newer disc harrows don't have the weight anymore to do the job in the first place. Mine does great on previous tilled ground that we farm. I would highly recommend a tiller, I just picked up a King Kutter from Rural King with their 12% rebate sale. I think a tiller would fit your situation better IMO Good luck

 

[jeff9366]

The newer disc harrows don't have the weight to do the job in the first place.

There are multiple producers of heavy Disc Harrows today. The buyer has to pay for the weight.

Some names: Monroe Tufline, Brown Manufacturing, Rome.

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[Tigershark]

There are multiple producers of heavy Disc Harrows today. The buyer has to pay for the weight.

Some names: Monroe Tufline, Brown Manufacturing, Rome.

Agriculture | Tufline
2017 Catalog | Brown Manufacturing |
Tillage Equipment >> Rome Plow

Jeff, thanks for the info on the heavy duty ones those are really sweet a little pricey but I imagine they get the job done. The ones I was referring to are the ones at Tractor supply, Rural king etc they don't have a lot of weight. I don't think 25hp would be enough to pull the Brown 6 ft heavy duty one effectively

 

[super55]

I had a kubota L2500 DT 4wd that I would pull a 6 1/2' foot with 18" disc and it had no problems. When I had turfs on the tractor it would occasionally get stuck on slopes but could easily push myself back out with the loader. With Ag tires never had an issue. I would usually put about 400# of weight on the disc to help it cut into the soil better.

Like others have said it really comes down to the type of dirt you have. If you have sandy loam you won't have any issues if you are working a soil with a lot of clay its going to really test your tractor.

As for tiller or disc it really comes down to how much soil your working. If you are doing small plots than a tiller is probably a better choice. If your doing anything over 1/2 an acre than a disc would be my choice.

 

[crazyal]

What are your plans? Are you thinking of making some food plots in the woods for game? If so then a tiller is not going to be a good option. Have you looked around at some of the rental places? I have two near me that rent attachments. if you can rent one you can decide for yourself if it's a good fit. I don't know much about discs but I would think you would want enough weight to get it to cut into the soil. Which brings up another question, are you going to use a turning plow and then the disc or just the disc. If just the disc how tough is your soil?

 

[jenkinsph]

As for tiller or disc it really comes down to how much soil your working. If you are doing small plots than a tiller is probably a better choice. If your doing anything over 1/2 an acre than a disc would be my choice.

Curious why you would say that "anything over 1/2 an acre then a disc would be my choice."?

I routinely till 5 acre small fields with a 6' tiller, takes about 2 hrs 15 minutes/acre making one pass at 1 mph and a second pass in opposing direction at 1.8 mph. That is about 7 inches deep and seedbed ready in most cases. In slightly damp ground I can cut a half hour off per acre and do this in 1 hr 45 mins. This is in old pastures that have not been worked in decades.

Ground that has been worked in the last year or two can be tilled in an hour/acre at 1.5 to 1.8 mph.

This is using a 60 hp tractor and 6' tiller.

 

[jeff9366]

Curious why you would say that "anything over 1/2 an acre then a disc would be my choice."?

I routinely till 5 acre small fields with a 6' tiller, takes about 2 hrs 15 minutes/acre making one pass at 1 mph and a second pass in opposing direction at 1.8 mph. That is about 7 inches deep and seedbed ready in most cases. In slightly damp ground I can cut a half hour off per acre and do this in 1 hr 45 mins. This is in old pastures that have not been worked in decades.

Ground that has been worked in the last year or two can be tilled in an hour/acre at 1.5 to 1.8 mph.

This is using a 60 hp tractor and 6' tiller.

I agree.

 

[Texasmark]

Another hat for a tiller. As stated a tiller alone or tiller and spike harrow and you are finished, one trip if ground sandy loam or broken up last year . On size I had a 6' on my Ford 3000 which is less than 40 hp but hp is not the biggie with the tiller. To work properly discs have to be heavy and run fast, the faster the better. Tillers run slow so your 25 hp is used in working the soil, not propelling you over it....actually when you hit a hard spot with a normal direction (cuts into the dirt from top to bottom, reverse rotation cut from the bottom to the top) rotating tiller it will push the tractor forward.

 

[tbtractor]

Sorry if this is a newbie question but hey I am one!
Need to know if a Kioti 25hst can handle a 6 foot disc harrow. Don't want to find out it can't once I buy it.
It handles a 5ft brush hog on hills.
Thanks!

Preston:confused3::confused3:

Wow, all of those responses and not one answered the Mans question

 

[K5lwq]

Wow, all of those responses and not one answered the Mans question

Have a hard time with reading? It was answered directly in at least 4 posts and every post gave great advice.

But I would think the OP has figured it out as it has been over 6 years since the question was asked.

 

[sweettractors]

Sorry if this is a newbie question but hey I am one!
Need to know if a Kioti 25hst can handle a 6 foot disc harrow. Don't want to find out it can't once I buy it.
It handles a 5ft brush hog on hills.
Thanks!

Preston:confused3::confused3:

 

[sweettractors]

No. Ken Sweet