should I replace these hoses?

[nimblemotors]

They have the outer covering falling off, is that OK, or does it mean they will be going bad soon? or can I just "recover" them?
thanks, jack

 

[billybobjimmyjoejack]

If the hose itself is in good condition (no cracking or scaring) you can purchase new fabric covers for them or there is a metal spiral material that is also available. The reasons for a cover would be to reduce any damage caused by weather conditions (i.e.: sunlight, cold, rain). The spiral material also helps to reduce any pinching or scuffing. The fabric material is cheap but the spiral is really expensive. I have been buying my replacement hoses from Discount Hydraulics .com.

 

[J_J]

I would go ahead and order new hoses, and replace when they finally leak or burst. That is the outer covering that has cracked, and was protecting the rubber, fabric and wire from the elements.

 

[creekbend]

I would go ahead and order new hoses, and replace when they finally leak or burst. That is the outer covering that has cracked, and was protecting the rubber, fabric and wire from the elements.

I agree totally in regards to all your advice.

 

[Discount Hydraulic Hose]

If the hose itself is in good condition (no cracking or scaring) you can purchase new fabric covers for them or there is a metal spiral material that is also available. The reasons for a cover would be to reduce any damage caused by weather conditions (i.e.: sunlight, cold, rain). The spiral material also helps to reduce any pinching or scuffing. The fabric material is cheap but the spiral is really expensive. I have been buying my replacement hoses from Discount Hydraulics .com.

I think Billy means DiscountHydraulicHose.com

Looking at the photo, I am surprised your hoses haven't leaked already. I have seen some messed up hoses before, but I've never seen any with this much damage. The outer cover looks like it's almost completely crumbled and separated from the steel wire.

 

[rasimmo]

I would replace those before they blow out and spray hot oil on you or someone else. If you are going to order new ones you might as well go ahead and install them. Instead of waiting for a failure. No sense in new hoses sitting in the barn collecting dust. Not trying to step on any toes just my 2 cents.

 

[leonz]

They have the outer covering falling off, is that OK, or does it mean they will be going bad soon? or can I just "recover" them?
thanks, jack

You can certainly tell they did not install them properly and have the corrrect fittings.

The outer sheath is the inidicator for hose health essentially as a two wire braid hose has greater tolrance for bending and movement WHEN the hose is plumbed correctly and routed correctly with the correct fitting adapters.

They installed straight fittings instead of 45 degree fittings exiting the valve body which is why the hose outer carcass has failed due to excessive flexing/bending.

The hose sheathing material and the spiral spring wrapping is used to prevent the premature wear of the outer sheath to prevent premature failure of the hose.

 

[kylebosch808]

My thoughts would be since they controll the loader i would replace them if there is ANY signs of wear, considering the amount of time that loader is in the air when your around it. Hoses are cheaper then broken bones or death!!!

 

[nimblemotors]

Thanks for you feedback. This TLB has sat outside for many years.
Almost all of the hoses look like these, except the few replaced by the previous owner, who got it almost free, did bare minimum to get it working before reselling it. He did buy new rear tires for it. It was very inexpensive, so expected to fix many things,
although the more I look, everything needs work/replaced..

So the hoses are not really "worn", but the covering has been shot from being outside. Does that change anything?

Also, other suggestions on where to buy the hoses? The discount place doesn't seem to sell pre-made hoses. Should I buy a crimp tool and make them myself? If need to replace 20 of them, and its cheaper to make my own, sounds like that is a good idea if the tools are not hard to use. Use to make them decades ago when I worked at CAT dealership..

 

[J_J]

If the covering is gone, they will eventually rust and burst when you least expect it.

It will depend on what you find.

You could make your own with bulk hose and replaceable fitting.

Try searching around this web site.

Surplus Center

http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?catname=hydraulic&keyword=HHBH