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[Too many Kubotas]

Come to think of it, I spent a couple of days driving a Look-at-me! car earlier this year.

That was okay since there were no cops, and everybody knew it wasn't my car.

 

[masseyrider]

Come to think of it, I spent a couple of days driving a Look-at-me! car earlier this year.

That was okay since there were no cops, and everybody knew it wasn't my car.View attachment 2088430

I had Plum Crazy and traded for Hell Raisin.
I tend to go for maroon/candy apple colors.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

When my girlfriend wanted to buy a V6 Challenger I took for granted it should be a Granite one (she's the one who got me in tune with the dark gray metallics) so that's what I started looking for.

Meanwhile she found a local (150 miles away is local for us) one in Hell Raisin. Neither of us knew what one looked like in real life, but she just loved the name of the color.

As it turned out, it's a really nice (and cop friendly) color.

 

[ning]

A lot of states have a law to turn on your lights when it’s raining. It just doesn’t sink in to some people. I originally wasn’t a fan of daytime running lights but have changed my mind since at least the headlights will be on for people that won’t turn their lights on.

my biggest beef with DRLs is the idiots who drive at night without turning real headlights on, because they just think their lights are dim when the DRLs are automagically on at night

of course, they're dark from behind

 

[LHF2019]

A lot of states have a law to turn on your lights when it’s raining. It just doesn’t sink in to some people. I originally wasn’t a fan of daytime running lights but have changed my mind since at least the headlights will be on for people that won’t turn their lights on.

And as stated above just as important as headlights are the taillights. Traveling yesterday went through a couple of lake effect whiteouts on the interstate and you cant see the car in front of you because no taillights. Dusk/dawn is just as bad. Wife had her lights set and didn't realize she had no taillights until I followed her and commented her car disappeared in to the surroundings. I don't think most people realize that most colors given the right conditions blend into the surroundings making them virtually impossible to see. Whoever thought of DRL should have thought of adding taillights to it as well.

 

[RjCorazza]

Speaking of steering trailers, I assume they still use hook and ladder fire trucks with a rear driver steering the back end.

They are still quite popular due to their extreme maneuverability. Before I retired Pierce came out with a straight (non-tiller) truck called an "All Steer" that steered the rear tandems.

 

[Runner]

my biggest beef with DRLs is the idiots who drive at night without turning real headlights on, because they just think their lights are dim when the DRLs are automagically on at night

of course, they're dark from behind

The reason is because (at least on my car) the instrument panel lights are always on, also, my DRL's are almost as bright at low beams, so the only way you can tell from inside the car that the headlights are on is the little headlight symbol on the display. Another reason I don't like DRL's.

Whereas, if the lights are off, I can see it right away. I don't drive off without headlights often, but have done it a few times and that is why. Usually notice when I can't see the rear side marker in the mirror....

 

[dodge man]

I’ve also noticed more and more people using their “automatic” high beams. On divided 4 lanes they often have them on for on coming traffic, not as bad as a two lane but still can be bright. They will also stay on as they are coming to pass you or you after passing them.

 

[WinterDeere]

I’ve also noticed more and more people using their “automatic” high beams. On divided 4 lanes they often have them on for on coming traffic, not as bad as a two lane but still can be bright. They will also stay on as they are coming to pass you or you after passing them.

I’ve noticed a deterioration in what I’d call “high beam etiquette”, and had never thought it might be due to automatic high beams, but you might be onto something here. The reason I had never thought it might be the automatics is that every one I’ve ever owned has erred so far toward always turning them off, that I’ve had to disable the system on every car that has ever had it, as it often won’t let me turn them on when I want or need them. But maybe that varies by brand.

Over the last decade or so, I’ve noticed an increase in people leaving them on when following me. My current pickup has a bed light that can be switched on while driving, so that’s usually my first means of signaling them, but that usually doesn’t get the job done. Sometimes I’ll pull over, let them pass, and then follow their ass with my highbeams on for awhile… hoping it gets the message through loud and clear.

Even oncoming cars are leaving theirs on more and more. I’ll flash you once and give you about 2 seconds to respond. If not, I turn mine on and leave them on. My truck sits fairly high, and has HIDs, so the experience for nearly any oncoming driver is going to be far worse than what I’m experiencing.

These may be a-hole responses, and I’m probably naive in hoping that I can retrain others around me to think more about leaving their high beams on the next time, but it feels better than just lamely driving into oncoming highbeams with no response.

 

[dodge man]

My wife’s car as the automatic high beams and we also turned it off.

One reason I say it’s people using automatic high beams is sometimes they turn off very quickly when you flash them or get closer.

It sucks to do it but I remember a drivers Ed instructor saying yes you’ll be blinded by their high beams but do you want them blinded too?

 

[WinterDeere]

I remember a drivers Ed instructor saying yes you’ll be blinded by their high beams but do you want them blinded too?

Yep. I was taught the same, “better to not have them blinded too.” But I disagree with both the premise and the logic on that one. I think it’s just some stupid thing someone made up, with no real proof that it puts you in greater danger.

My high beams may indeed prevent them from adequately seeing their surroundings, to the point where it’s painful enough for them to maybe finally turn theirs off. Good. I can say with nearly 100% certainty that they’re not going to hit me, as I’m the only thing they can see, in that scenario.

 

[masseyrider]

Yep. I was taught the same, “better to not have them blinded too.” But I disagree with both the premise and the logic on that one. I think it’s just some stupid thing someone made up, with no real proof that it puts you in greater danger.

My high beams may indeed prevent them from adequately seeing their surroundings, to the point where it’s painful enough for them to maybe finally turn theirs off. Good. I can say with nearly 100% certainty that they’re not going to hit me, as I’m the only thing they can see, in that scenario.

I'll give them a quick flash to let them know they're on their brights.
If they don't adjust I'll just hit and hold my brights.
The worst though is the super high output bulbs some cars have. They shine that clear blue and I have to think they are brighter than is legal.
A number of times I've flashed them and then received their brights.
Put your hands up in front of your eyes and you'll get a X-ray view of your bones.
How that's legal I don't know.
Almost forgot the idiots that run with their fog lights on all the time.
In this jurisdiction that is a ticketable offence if the conditions don't call for it.
However it seems every a-s with a Jeep and jacked up pickup has to prove they have them.

 

[Runner]

I usually close one eye when someone is approaching with high beams (or just really bright or misaligned low beams). Seems to help maintain night vision a little.

For some reason, I get a lot of people flashing their high beams at me when I'm approaching with low beams on. The car's never been in an accident and I seriously doubt Toyota sent it out with misaligned lights. Weird that it seems to happen a lot on this particular car, especially since the lights aren't all that bright anyway.

 

[Code54]

If fog lights are installed properly they should not blind anyone.

 

[Jstpssng]

The reason is because (at least on my car) the instrument panel lights are always on, also, my DRL's are almost as bright at low beams, so the only way you can tell from inside the car that the headlights are on is the little headlight symbol on the display. Another reason I don't like DRL's.

Whereas, if the lights are off, I can see it right away. I don't drive off without headlights often, but have done it a few times and that is why. Usually notice when I can't see the rear side marker in the mirror....

I will reiterate this. It's been so long since I've had to turn my headlights on that I never even think about it anymore. After previous TBN discussions about DRLs and taillights, when I think of it I'll toss a glove up on the sensor in rainy or foggy weather.
Key words are "when I think of it."

 

[Jstpssng]

If fog lights are installed properly they should not blind anyone.

I believe that a lot, if not most of the new led light bars people are using do not meet DOT specs. Most if not all of the units I've seen online only talk about off-road use.

 

[steve tym]

My Colorado with LED's doesn't seem to brighten when I turn on the high beams, it just adjusts the pattern. Very distinctive cut off line with the low beams, high just seems to open the eye lids all the way. If the oncoming driver is below the cut off line of my low beams, I can see that they would assume my high beams are on. Oh, and my fog lights light up about 4' if front of my truck, they are adjusted crazy low.

 

[Jstpssng]

My company Tundra has the option of self dimming high beams. I tried it for a few days but still found myself dimming them before the computer did. One night I was about 30 feet from an oncoming car on a curve when it suddenly hit the high beams at him... I haven't used it since.

 

[LouNY]

I'll give them a quick flash to let them know they're on their brights.
If they don't adjust I'll just hit and hold my brights.
The worst though is the super high output bulbs some cars have. They shine that clear blue and I have to think they are brighter than is legal.
A number of times I've flashed them and then received their brights.
Put your hands up in front of your eyes and you'll get a X-ray view of your bones.
How that's legal I don't know.
Almost forgot the idiots that run with their fog lights on all the time.
In this jurisdiction that is a ticketable offence if the conditions don't call for it.
However it seems every a-s with a Jeep and jacked up pickup has to prove they have them.

I run with my fog lights on all the time, they only work with the low beam head lights on. I have thought about getting into the programing and having them on 100% of the time. They brighten up the sides of the road and the ditches and brush were the damned deer jump out from. And they work good for corning lights also.

 

[John0829]

I run with my fog lights on all the time, they only work with the low beam head lights on. I have thought about getting into the programing and having them on 100% of the time. They brighten up the sides of the road and the ditches and brush were the damned deer jump out from. And they work good for corning lights also.

I do the same thing and did get into the system of the Tundra and programmed them to be on all the time. On our Honda the fogs are only on with low beams and I have no way to reprogram it. As for the auto high beams, the Honda will dim the lights when it gets some reflection from highway signage. Turned it off, fast to dim on reflection but slow in traffic. Though the best thing I did for driving at night and meeting IDIOTS with the super bright lights... quit driving at night and stay home.