Selling tractor looking for fair price advice

[scootr]

Yeah, it makes ones ask... How? How was it used, stored, cared for? What other issues are about to arise?

Or what is the quality of this machine? Do I even want a tractor that has this many issues in such a short time? No.
I had a tractor for 14 yrs with 4 times the hours and fewer issues.
I think this machine has design/build problems and possible maintenance issues. But that is just my picky buying analysis. I don't buy other peoples problems.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Or what is the quality of this machine? Do I even want a tractor that has this many issues in such a short time? No.
I had a tractor for 14 yrs with 4 times the hours and fewer issues.
I think this machine has design/build problems and possible maintenance issues. But that is just my picky buying analysis. I don't buy other peoples problems.

Which is why two years ago it made more sense to buy new, than slightly used. Slightly used in the CUT market, is typically very abused.

 

[scootr]

Which is why two years ago it made more sense to buy new, than slightly used. Slightly used in the CUT market, is typically very abused.

I could see that for some. 1.5 yrs ago I was leaning that way, even went to the Kubota dealer and priced what I wanted. I was shocked by the price. So I kept looking, nationwide even. Then by sheer luck I saw what I wanted on CL for the right price. Tractor was garage kept, 150 hrs, 4 yrs old, showroom condition with remotes and gannon I wanted. Owner was moving out of state. I paid cash and took possession the same day. It now has 400 trouble free hrs on it. Kubota, baby

 

[jyoutz]

The broken pto brake is a deal killer for most people. Get that fixed before selling.

 

[dodge man]

I’d say start at $15k. If I were looking to buy it from you and knew it had to be split to fix the pto I’d want to give you a little less than $10k. It looks like there are a lot more of the 33hp New Holland tractors for sale than ones like yours.

 

[Tiverson]

Thanks for all the advice everyone.

 

[tractorblue]

I have a 2020 TC35D without bucket ~2400 hrs. I've experienced all the issues listed and fixed them myself. Look on Ebay and find a used maintenance manual, it will save you thousands. Granted it will take likely several days to fix the issues and likely a few hundred dollars in parts. Maybe ask around town for someone that has general mechanical skills and hire them to come out and repair for you. NH Boomers are notorious for these issues. Search repair threads on this website as well;great advice on fixing these issues. I've got the inclination to upgrade to new tractor next year as well. Good luck!

 

[Tiverson]

@tractorblue, how did you fix the PTO spinning problem? i would to fix the problems my self.

 

[GWagon]

The problem with selling something that has so many issues and then telling potential buyers that you cannot afford to do the repairs, it would make one also think perhaps you couldn't afford to do the scheduled maintenance either. That could scare away buyers. It would me!

470 hours and couldn't keep up with 4 problems/ repairs. I wouldn't even go look at this one. Owner probably saved by skipping routine maintenance also.

 

[arto98607]

Yeah like oil changes?

 

[paulsharvey]

Even fixed it won't bring $20k in this market. It's worth about $16k with implements IMO..they won't be coming out of the woodwork to buy it at $16k if you don't fix the issues. With the issues fixed $18k

There are a lot of used tractors now

So, my feeling, is max asking of $12,000; and potentially around $8000. The cruise control and tilt steering are, too me, non issues really, and I wouldn't even bother disclosing, nor would I hide it. It's a used machine, and it has significant hours.

The PTO not working basically turned it from a tractor to a very small, under powdered front end loader. That is atleast a $4000 deduction from a starting point of say, $16,000. Then I figure 2000 hours, that's about half of what many people consider the useful life of a machine in this size/power range, maybe 1/3 used up?

I really would feel the need to disclose the PTO not working in the sales ad, and I would post it at $12,000. I wouldn't include attachments in that price, but I would use them as negotiating leverage. If they offer say, $10,000; I would counter with $12,000 and I'll include the attachments.

Edit; sorry, I saw someone talking about 2000 hours, but I see our OP only has 470 hours. Maybe we start at $13.5k?

Do you have any idea what is wrong with the PTO? A clutch, an electronic switch, or catastrophic internal damage?

It is a 22 year old machine too, and here's a bit of my reasoning; a brand new, 100% functional, CK3520 is $27,500. I would want atleast a 50% price cut for the age/damage. Even if the PTO is non fixable (at a reasonable price), it still would be a great addition for someone moving boats/trailers, moving some small material, ect; but not having a function PTO get rid of 50% of its ability.

On the impliments; it might be worth including the Box Blade in the offer; and sell the finish mower separate. The mower would offer the buyer no additional utility, as it can't run it. It's probably worth $750 separately.

 

[paulsharvey]

Hold on, I just reread, and the PTO break doesn't work, but the PTO does still engage/disengage fine? That changes everything. It's still a 22 year old machine, but if the PTO enages/disengages, and doesn't slip under load, I don't know I would bother even bring it up. I could possibly start my asking price at $15k; but being as old as it is, I would expect it to bring about $12k or so.

If I'm still misunderstanding, feel free to correct me.

 

[tractorblue]

@tractorblue, how did you fix the PTO spinning problem? i would to fix the problems my self.

if I understand correctly, the PTO does not dis-engage. Underneath linkages there is an adjustable nut on a linkage that engages a safety switch. Either needs adjustment or defective switch.

 

[Tiverson]

Thanks for the reply’s and advice. The PTO engages when switch on, when switch off it continues to spin but I can put the finish mower on tall grass and it would stop. I can switch the PTO on and it starts cutting. Thank for the input.

 

[airbiscuit]

Doing a search on TC35 PTO issues, I find 2

One is taking the seat pedestal off and doing something with the valve body or stop

The recall involves the replacement of a PTO stop plate and does not involve splitting the tractor. Repair time should be 1-2 hours according to CNH.

The other involves splitting the tractor.

 

[airbiscuit]

This explains it better

Tom, I think the dealer will first remove your seat where there is an access port to the PTO control valve and cover plate on top of the rear transmission. He will remove the valve and plate and inspect your PTO clutch. If it is only a damaged stopping plate, that can be replaced without removing the entire clutch.

If the complete clutch has to come out, the Repair Manual calls for splitting the tractor between the front transmission case and rear transmission case so the shaft the PTO mounted on can be driven out the rear of the housing to allow the clutch to be removed. This is a much more critical issue than just replacing the stopping plate.

I don't believe the dealer will be able to tell you how big a job it will be until he gets the cover off the transmission and inspectes the parts.

I've uploaded two diagrams. The first one shows how to access the PTO valve through the access under the seat. The second shows the plate the PTO valve is mounted on and what the clutch looks like with the plate removed. The flat plate on the top of the PTO clutch with the notch in it is the PTO stop plate and what may be damaged on your tractor. Of course, it also might be ear on the PTO that slides into the slot. That would mean the whole clutch has to be removed.

 

[Tiverson]

thanks for everyone's advice, the tractor is Sold

 

[paulsharvey]

thanks for everyone's advice, the tractor is Sold

Well, don't leave us hanging. If you don't want to reveal the price, just let us know who was closest

 

[Tiverson]

Paulharvey was closest for the prices. The guy was local and knew about the model (he had one before), came to see it and drove it around and played with it, he said it was in good condition except for the PTO brake.