Security & Theft Securing tractor from theft

[Egon]

Some of the herd tries to eat out of the buckets while I am carrying them prior to pouring them out.

Uh oh could there be a future pet problem?

 

[Soundguy]

Might as well be enthusiastic as overhead this close to the house would be butt ugly. Once I learned to pull the wire before gluing the conduit it got easy! Besides 6-3 with ground isn't THAT tough to work with.

Pat

I remember running power out to my pasture using 20' pipe runs.. man.. I got tired of snaking pipe after 600'!

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Regarding the trick with the glued up conduit:

The electrical supply houses sell a little piece of fluff with a leader on it. You tie on your own light string and use a small vacuum cleaner to suck it from where you put it into the conduit to where you want the wire to exit. There is no conflict between a tight fit of the vacuum nozzle and the string when you use it to suck instead of blow. Pat

We call that a 'rat' when we have chase pipe and the installer forgets to leave a string in them for us, we suck the rat thru..

soundguy

 

[gemini5362]

Humor intended? and taken as humor 'cause I can't picture the rock tossing.

Yes Pat I was attempting to be humorous. I got to remember to include my disclaimer more often. Trust me if my wife seen all that you have gotten finished on your house since we were there and compared it to what I have gotten done at mine she would have unfavorable performance reviews of what I have accomplished.


I am very impressed you are getting a lot done. I cant wait to see it with all the improvements you have made.

 

[gemini5362]

Uh oh could there be a future pet problem?

I believe all of pats cows have names. Not names like B1762 or anything but actual names.

 

[Egon]

[QUOTEI believe all of pats cows have names. Not names like B1762 or anything but actual names.][/QUOTE]


Yes that could be a worry!

 

[patrick_g]

[QUOTEI believe all of pats cows have names. Not names like B1762 or anything but actual names.]

Yes that could be a worry![/QUOTE]

Actually they do all have names:

Number 11 is Butterball, so named because she was so fat when we got her at 7 months, a real show calf, an ideal Angus poster calf but who has aborted or reabsorbed the zygote (or small fetus) repetitively ( I think) and never delivered any calf dead or alive. She has to get on the bandwagon soon or she will be renamed to Burger and take a trip to town (euphemism for sale barn.)

Number 7 is Curly, so named because he has curly forelocks.

All the rest are named momma #1 through #12 (less #7 which is Curly the bull. I have another dozen head on the place belonging to a friend and they are not named except Red 7, Red 22, etc. (I use Green tags)

All of my animals are pretty tame, laid back, and not too spooky. Yet, none are pets and none can be petted per se and any such attempt will get them to move away from you quickly. They aren't so shy when there is feed in a bucket or they suspect same.

Thomas, All that is required to get a first hand inspection tour of my projects etc is to call to make sure we are free and then come on over. Egon has an open invitation too but a little longer commute.

I'm not like totally frantic about my projects. I have secured the services of a helper who generally shows up 3-5 days a week and we hit it hard from 0700 till 1530 with a half hour for lunch (typically soup, sandwich, and fruit) my treat. Another guy came by in the evenings and some weekends and helped me brace the bld for moving and helped with the metal/welding shop enclosing/transformation. He lately takes his kids hunting so hasn't been available much. When both were coming regularly I got sort of burned out working from 0700-1530 plus 1730-2030 but the tempo has slacked off now that the bld is moved and we finished adding wind braces to make up for the fact that the columns are not 3 feet into concrete but are relatively free to pivot where they connect to the tops of the piers.

I have MANY more projects waiting in the wings. If/when weather gets wet and nasty this winter I will start some inside projects like finish work in the basement and other house items. The electrical work was an outgrowth of the bld move and when done will leave me completing the metal/welding shop. I want to string some more electrical distribution and am considering some sort of winter heating like burning scrap wood instead of relying on the wood shop's heat pump.

Of course I may move the automatic propane powered stand by genset to a higher place in the priority list and get that started. So many projects, so little time.

Pat

 

[Egon]

Thinking of the daily feeding chores and then the plethora of other projects makes my back ache!

Now if those cattle feeding stations incorporated cattle critter thread mill driven generator that generator project could be put on hold!

 

[patrick_g]

Now if those cattle feeding stations incorporated cattle critter thread mill driven generator that generator project could be put on hold!

Nah, too old fashioned. Appropriately attached rubber hoses to collect methane emissions to use to run the generator is the way to go. So far I have only thought of too complex of methods like overhead trolley with automatic make and break connections. Tangling is still to be dealt with.

Pat

 

[Egon]

Pat, look at some of the technology incorporated in some of today's milking parlours for the tubing!

 

[LBrown59]

Yes the 35x70x18 (wall) red metal bld that was up by the highway is now 200 ft east of my 3 car garage. I took pix and unless I am having a big relapse/episode of CRS I posted pix.

Now then was that here or on CBN??? Hmmm...

Pat

hmmm I must be having amnesia. Did you post them on this thread or which one ?

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http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/projects/131237-moving-35x70x18-metal-barn.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1509271

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1509293

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/1513630-post14.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1513719

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/1509271-post1.html

 

[patrick_g]

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http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/projects/131237-moving-35x70x18-metal-barn.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1509271

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1509293

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/1513630-post14.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1513719

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/1509271-post1.html

The first of the links above takes you to the right thread. First pix are of bracing, second is pad and third set (a few posts down thread) show building while being moved. I have more pix not posted but they are essentially redundant and don't show much else.

Pat

 

[gemini5362]

Thank you pat. Nice job of getting it moved. I am looking forward to my next visit. I am not doing any arbitrations next month but January is going to be busy. I have to defend a guy that called in sick and went fishing. He got caught and they fired him for it. I have to defend a guy that was accused of stealing gas and was fired for that. and I have some contract issues over some letters of demand. If I can sneak some free time we might try to come up.

 

[patrick_g]

Thank you pat. Nice job of getting it moved. I am looking forward to my next visit. I am not doing any arbitrations next month but January is going to be busy. I have to defend a guy that called in sick and went fishing. He got caught and they fired him for it. I have to defend a guy that was accused of stealing gas and was fired for that. and I have some contract issues over some letters of demand. If I can sneak some free time we might try to come up.

I sure hope you get a chance to come over.

I can easily see how in some circumstances you could be too sick to perform your standard job or be contagious and have all the folks at your work place in your debt for not bringing it to work BUT be perfectly fine to go fishing. Not saying this was the case, just that I can see how that could reasonably happen.

Now then, regarding the gas thief. If they have him cold and there is no doubt I'd hope he was terminated and criminal charges filed as well as suing for the value of the fuel and lost service due to its loss.

If the gas was missed and he had opportunity (in theft motive is typically assumed) but there is no real evidence then I'd be hesitant to be too hasty dumping on him. Maybe he'd agree to be on probation for 6 mo to a year and with no further problems just get on with business but any unexcused or inexcusable deviation from the rules and BYE BYE.

We will be here except for a day or so either side of and Christmas day itself. So either before Christmas or between Christmas and New Years is fine with me. I have taught myself to shoot pool passably left handed and need a vict... uh er ah a competitor to try it out on.

Monday (tomorrow) the electric Co-op is supposed to put the meter back that was pulled to kill power for the bld move. I have the new wires in conduit and backfilled the trench as well as have the well and convenience outlets wired up again. I still have no branch circuits (output) from the sub panel in the hay barn but at least I can run the well to supply water to the 250 gal Tupperware water trough's automatic valve. I bought a thermostatically controlled submerged heater for the trough too. Luckily we haven't had any hard freezes as there is no power of course to the heater tapes distributed on the plumbing inside the well house. I think I should add another strip to heat the line feeding the auto-valve on the trough.

Tractor has never had a problem starting but once and I touched the hydrostat pedal and that fixed it. I am gaining confidence that it was just a pedal position issue and otherwise all is well.

Pat

 

[gemini5362]

Actually I am confident I have a good chance with the guy that went fishing. The 8th circuit of appeals decided a case where a woman went home on FMLA leave then went to her second job the next day. The court said she could be sick and unable to do one job but still be able to do something else. I am thinking that with that case to back me up I should do ok. The one about gas being stolen is a he said she said kind of thing. Not too sure about it yet I have not talked to the grievant. If he is guilty it is amazing that someone would lose that good a job for a few gallons of gas. Sounds like you have done well with all of your work. I have to pick a time when we can get free I will give you plenty of notice. Right now I have all my christmas shopping done for everyone but my wife and will have most of her presents bought tomorrow. I like having it done before december. Sure beats haveing to stand in line.

 

[Soundguy]

Ya might have one job with strenous physical requirements.. and another with lower requirements. I've seen a guy that worked 2 jobs and was on medical leave from one job that required him to bend and lift 50-80#.. he was not released for that.. only light work.. which his other job fit into.. IE.. none or light ( under 20# ) lifting.

soundguy

I sure hope you get a chance to come over.

I can easily see how in some circumstances you could be too sick to perform your standard job or be contagious and have all the folks at your work place in your debt for not bringing it to work BUT be perfectly fine to go fishing. Not saying this was the case, just that I can see how that could reasonably happen.

Now then, regarding the gas thief. If they have him cold and there is no doubt I'd hope he was terminated and criminal charges filed as well as suing for the value of the fuel and lost service due to its loss.

If the gas was missed and he had opportunity (in theft motive is typically assumed) but there is no real evidence then I'd be hesitant to be too hasty dumping on him. Maybe he'd agree to be on probation for 6 mo to a year and with no further problems just get on with business but any unexcused or inexcusable deviation from the rules and BYE BYE.

We will be here except for a day or so either side of and Christmas day itself. So either before Christmas or between Christmas and New Years is fine with me. I have taught myself to shoot pool passably left handed and need a vict... uh er ah a competitor to try it out on.

Monday (tomorrow) the electric Co-op is supposed to put the meter back that was pulled to kill power for the bld move. I have the new wires in conduit and backfilled the trench as well as have the well and convenience outlets wired up again. I still have no branch circuits (output) from the sub panel in the hay barn but at least I can run the well to supply water to the 250 gal Tupperware water trough's automatic valve. I bought a thermostatically controlled submerged heater for the trough too. Luckily we haven't had any hard freezes as there is no power of course to the heater tapes distributed on the plumbing inside the well house. I think I should add another strip to heat the line feeding the auto-valve on the trough.

Tractor has never had a problem starting but once and I touched the hydrostat pedal and that fixed it. I am gaining confidence that it was just a pedal position issue and otherwise all is well.

Pat

 

[Soundguy]

I heard that.. I like to have my shopping done by the 1st week of december for sure..

soundguy

Right now I have all my christmas shopping done for everyone but my wife and will have most of her presents bought tomorrow. I like having it done before december. Sure beats haveing to stand in line.