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   / Securing tractor from theft #241  
My Grandfather planted a garden every spring and he tried every "scarecrow" tactic know to man to keep the blackbirds (thevies) out of his garden. He finally found one solution that worked well. He would plant the garden, then sit on the porch with his 22 cal rifle and shoot the first Blackbird that showed up. He would drive a stake in the middle of the garden and hang that dead bird from it. You could see the other birds sitting in the trees at the end of the garden but not one would take a chance to grad a snack. You could almost imagine what they were thinkin.." Don't go down there man... LOOK WHAT HE DID TO PHIL!!!"

I wasn't sure it the tractor theft deterant device had to be legal or just effective :D
 
   / Securing tractor from theft #242  
My Grandfather planted a garden every spring and he tried every "scarecrow" tactic know to man to keep the blackbirds (thevies) out of his garden. He finally found one solution that worked well. He would plant the garden, then sit on the porch with his 22 cal rifle and shoot the first Blackbird that showed up. He would drive a stake in the middle of the garden and hang that dead bird from it. You could see the other birds sitting in the trees at the end of the garden but not one would take a chance to grad a snack. You could almost imagine what they were thinkin.." Don't go down there man... LOOK WHAT HE DID TO PHIL!!!"

I wasn't sure it the tractor theft deterant device had to be legal or just effective :D

A.J. about how high up do you suppose you should hang the first dead tractor thief for optimum effect?

I had a cousin whose family lived in a rural area on a farm near Enid, Oklahoma whose summer job was "herding" crows in water melon fields. He'd take a jug of water and sack lunch along with his .22 and go sit under a shade tree and shoot at any crows that would fly down into the watermelons. I don't recall his hourly salary but I think the per crow bonus was either $0.25 or $0.50 each. Of course he didn't get many crows but the bonus kept him trying instead of sleeping under the shade tree and the farmer saved a lot of crop from being pecked.

Pat.
 
   / Securing tractor from theft #243  
Definately high enough to be seen from the highway.;)
 
   / Securing tractor from theft #244  
My bucket has a hole in it...


Red barn got moved. Is that the big metal building you have been talking about having moved did you finally get that done. We all want the complete story of how you did it. Last I heard you were waiting for some help to prepare it for the big move ?

Yes the 35x70x18 (wall) red metal bld that was up by the highway is now 200 ft east of my 3 car garage. I took pix and unless I am having a big relapse/episode of CRS I posted pix.

Now then was that here or on CBN??? Hmmm...

Pat
 
   / Securing tractor from theft #245  
Pat, I think you'd be better off to get a separate air compressor as you will loose about 10psi per 50ft of line. In order to keep the lose down you'd need to up the diameter of your air line quite a bit and it would need to be rated at about 200+ psi (even though your air supply will probably be about 135psi.). Also those flexible lines unless there rated for outdoor/under ground will probably rot in a few years and you'd be doing it all over again.
 
   / Securing tractor from theft #246  
Yes the 35x70x18 (wall) red metal bld that was up by the highway is now 200 ft east of my 3 car garage. I took pix and unless I am having a big relapse/episode of CRS I posted pix.

Now then was that here or on CBN??? Hmmm...

Pat
hmmm I must be having amnesia. Did you post them on this thread or which one ?
 
   / Securing tractor from theft #247  
I have a failed portable compressor with a good 30 gal tank. I thought I might bury a small airline (inexpensive flex plastic) from my metal/welding shop to the barn. Cheaper than a HF pancake and hopefully more reliable.

While I'm not a supreme fan of most of the stuff from the chinese store.. I wouldn't blaspheme their pancake compressors just yet. I have one that is over 10ys old now. Just a few months ago it finally blew out some gaskets in the head. I was gonna junk it. but took it apart nd cleaned with carb cleaner spray and cut newgaskets out of regular automotive thin gasket paper and an exacto knife. thing works better than ever now. piston bore and piston were 'new' looking with no appreciable wear at all. I figure it's got another 10ys left in it at this rate.. I put that cost of owning at 9$ per year now.. not too bad. Considering the lifespan of many flexible tubings.. and the pain in the but it will be when one does blow or get a leak... that dedicated compressor may be a great idea.. heck.. keep the 30g tank as well... use it as extra air capacity. I used to paint tractors with that little 2hp / 4g pancake job.. I plumbed an extra 15g air-up tank in with it for more capacity and ran that little compressor till the paint burned off the head many times while painting....

the way i used it deffinately qualified as abuse.. and it's still going like brand new... I f i didn't know better.. I'd say it had a gasket leak from the factor when i got it as it builds aire 2x as fast now with my homade gaskets..

soundguy
 
   / Securing tractor from theft #248  
Pat, I think you'd be better off to get a separate air compressor as you will loose about 10psi per 50ft of line. In order to keep the lose down you'd need to up the diameter of your air line quite a bit and it would need to be rated at about 200+ psi (even though your air supply will probably be about 135psi.). Also those flexible lines unless there rated for outdoor/under ground will probably rot in a few years and you'd be doing it all over again.

Sorry, but I disagree. Here is why...

I will not be trying to "use" air from the long run of hose but will just be filling a tank in the barn via the long run of small hose which I bought a couple days ago (250 feet @9 cents per foot.) It will fit inside 3/4 inch conduit along with the 6-3 with ground wire power run. This little tube will fill the 30 gal tank (which I will cannibalize from a failed Devilbiss compressor) via its check valve. At stasis the flow rate is zero so the losses are zero. The dynamic losses are not of consequence since I don't really care a lot how slow the initial or subsequent fills are (hours wouild be acceptable as I don't need minutes. My needs for air in the barn are not too HD, just maybe topping off tires, things a portable air tank could do (sort of) but I don't have to tote it back and forth to a compressor or air line doing it this way.

If I really cared I'd bury a larger pipe.

In the event I have to do some HD air work like with impact tools this set up will not be useful. But neither would a little HF pancake or similar which costs more and is more maint and failure prone than a run of tubing. If I have to get serious with air I can just press the button on my electric start 17,500 Watt (continuous rating) generator which is mounted on the same little trailer as a 10+ CFM @90 PSI compressor and air too away. The genny has an idle control so when the compressor runs the genny revs up and when the compressor stops the genny goes to idle (likewise other loads.) It has an electronic governor so load response is very good.

I will feed the little line from a regulator set at 125 pounds or maybe a tad less (Devilbiss was set for 125 max.) My shop air is a 175 PSI 60 gal. My air dryer (refrigeration compressor type) is not rated that high so I have to set the output regulator lower before distributing the shop air.

I understand your comments and they are appreciated. If I were trying to actually use air as it was delivered by the little tube all your comments would be valid and my installation would be really stupid. The little tube was less than $25 plus a couple fittings vs always having to carry a "turtle" back and forth from the shop to the barn to have a bit of air in the barn.

Regarding rot: Note the plastic tubing I bought is not your typical beaided air hose with cloth fibers in it. It is like what is often used for ice maker water lines and is pretty impervious to being buried. Since it is being installed inside a PVC conduit with no light exposure (UV degradation) it should last for a very long time.

I'd like to acknowledge other well intended suggestions such as Soundman's too. If my requirements were as some of you supposed then my approach NEEDED help. It never hurts to get a sanity check before doing unusual things.

Oh by the way... why not direct burial wire since the air line would be OK for direct burial? Because direct burial wire costs $1.11 per foot more and conduit is $0.24 a foot. I will save about $0.87 per foot for a bit over 210 feet (less the cost of glue and a few fittings at the ends.) $174 (200 ft) less the cost of the glue and fittings makes it worth while to assemble conduit. I can have a lot of fun with the $150 + difference.

Pat
 
   / Securing tractor from theft #249  
Have fun with tht project... I don't mind doing water line.. ut hate messing with underground electrical... I'm glad someone is enthusiastic about it!

soundguy
 
   / Securing tractor from theft #250  
Have fun with tht project... I don't mind doing water line.. ut hate messing with underground electrical... I'm glad someone is enthusiastic about it!

soundguy

Might as well be enthusiastic as overhead this close to the house would be butt ugly. Once I learned to pull the wire before gluing the conduit it got easy! Besides 6-3 with ground isn't THAT tough to work with.

Pat
 

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