Second experience roading tractor

[panamaguy]

I have no problem roading my tractor. But roading a Kubota U17 mini ex a mile to my buddies, now that was painful!

After replacing the tracks on my IHI 15 NX for that cost i would not road my hoe for anyone. If you dont have a trailer and they can't find one i would not go

 

[Hay Dude]

The solution is to get a trailer to haul your tractor around. My 45hp Kioti hydro weighs in around 5000 and slows down on pulling grades also. At least you have 12 speeds to play with.. I only have 3.

Aint no solution for me
F that
I'm farming and have equal rights to the road as a car.

 

[ptsg]

Aint no solution for me
F that
I'm farming and have equal rights to the road as a car.

Exactly.

Over here, tractors and trailers even have titles and license plates. Albeit, most people are typically very respectful of that kind of equipment. Only the ocasional idiot likes to pull a dumb overtake.

Heck, lots of old timers just drive around in their tractors, going to the local bar/cafeteria in the middle of small villages, just to have a couple of beers with their friends. It was easier back then to have drivers license for tractors, instead of a regular vehicle. They didn't even needed to know how to read.

 

[Aquabird]

I had a 25hp tractor for over 30yrs. I sometimes drove it about 3 miles and on flat rds with a hydro, it clipped along pretty quickly. My newer tractor with gobs more hp does not go much if any faster.

 

[Hay Dude]

Too a few pics of our tight, hilly, curvy roads in my ‘hood this morning. I have to drive past this T-pole almost every day. Notice the shoulder of the road is also crumbled & sunken?

I may have hit this one with my baler….

Here we have a springhouse built right to the edge of the road.

At least I do my part trimming the trees with my truck mirror!

 

[dnw64]

My shop and a rental property, both of which I occasionally need my tractor for, are about 11 to 12 miles from my house. I roaded my tractor there once. That was enough. Actually, more than enough. Most of it is on a two-lane State highway with wide shoulders. But even with my wife driving behind me in her car with the flashers on, people are idiots. The next couple of times, I borrowed a trailer from my son-in-law. I finally broke down and bought my own trailer last year, well worth the extra effort to load and unload.

Glad I don't have to road my tractor here. Bad enough driving a p/u or even a small car. There are three poles like this in a 1/4 mile section.

 

[chim]

Someone was a little too far to the right and did some modification to that pole in Post #22. The utility company had to put a splint on it. Doubt it'll heal though

At least when they remove the damaged pole, its replacement is another 12" away from the blacktop.

 

[dodge man]

Having worked in the civil engineering business for years, it’s a little disturbing to see power poles and other objects that close to roads. I see some of that in illinois but not to the extent as the Eastern States.

When designing a highway there is an area called the clear zone. Nothing should be in that area such as poles, steep slopes and other hazards. If there is you put up guardrails. You have to design roads for bad drivers and accidents. I also realize a lot of these roads were wagon tracks at one time and there is no money to improve them.

 

[paulsharvey]

Having worked in the civil engineering business for years, it’s a little disturbing to see power poles and other objects that close to roads. I see some of that in illinois but not to the extent as the Eastern States.

When designing a highway there is an area called the clear zone. Nothing should be in that area such as poles, steep slopes and other hazards. If there is you put up guardrails. You have to design roads for bad drivers and accidents. I also realize a lot of these roads were wagon tracks at one time and there is no money to improve them.

Here atleast, clear zone is pretty wide, but based on speed limit (actually design speed, which generally is 5-10 mph above posted). Note, these numbers are from edge of travel, not edge of pavement (so, 1" outside the white line).

As Dodge mentions, things like a power pole can Easily be fatal at 45 mph.

 

[paulsharvey]

That's also why sign posts are either pre-punched square or tee light gauage steel, or round aluminum; they are designed to be "ctash worthy" which means not dangerous when hit. Even comes down to why sign corners are rounded, and not sharp square corners.

 

[azbinder]

Back in '76, I moved an IH 622 cotton picker about 100 miles down Interstate 8 in western Arizona. Boss followed in his pickup. Talk about a long drive.

 

[chim]

I must wonder if farming had something to do with the poles being so near the roadway here in PA. Most farmers around hear like to plant as much as possible on whatever land they have. There's an Amish farm near the place I worked with the corn really close to the road. I joked that if he wanted to plant another row he'd need to drill holes in the blacktop. He already cut the first four rows, but you get the idea. If Hay Dude did corn as well as grass, he could harvest the first few rows without getting off the road

 

[paulsharvey]

I must wonder if farming had something to do with the poles being so near the roadway here in PA. Most farmers around hear like to plant as much as possible on whatever land they have. There's an Amish farm near the place I worked with the corn really close to the road. I joked that if he wanted to plant another row he'd need to drill holes in the blacktop. He already cut the first four rows, but you get the idea. If Hay Dude did corn as well as grass, he could harvest the first few rows without getting off the roadView attachment 4133406

Indirectly, yeah, a bit. Its really the ROW probably that is the issue. Can't set the poles on private property, so the best they can do is the back couple feet of the ROW. Back when they first started building road systems, people didn't realize just how narrow a 66 ft right of way is. Some are even narrower than that.

You take 2, 12 ft lanes, each with 5 ft paved shoulders, a 4 ft grass shoulder, a 4:1 front slope of a ditch, and a 3:1 back slope; that takes up a Lot of space. Basically, a road, its paved and grassed shoulders alone take up 42 ft; before we start talking about the swale/ditch.

But, buying ROW is expensive, more so if the land has a decent value, like productive crop land.

 

[Shawn T. W.]

I actually OWN to the center of the county roadway, which is less than 20' of pavement, they have "easement" and "ROW".

The county deducts the square footage that they use from my taxable acreage.

Utility poles are set out of the ROW behind the fence line ... Here you can see a pole on the other side of the paved road on my neighbors side of there fence ... Flag pole is on the corner of my barbwire fence which goes along the county road, and comes into my driveway.

 

[paulsharvey]

So, my private road, each property has a 33 fr access and utility easement centered on the road, so not Right of Way, but a blanket easement pretty much for everyone and everything. Not the same as the county or state owning "in fee". With that, they have no responsibility to do anything, and they won't.

My understanding, per out LDC (Land Development Code) these type of easements are not allowed to serve more than 4 properties on new subdivisions.

County could, if they wanted, easily just take the 66 ft, but they would than be responsible

A one time, there was a POA that was responsible for maintaining, but it sunsetted, and was dissolved.

 

[paulsharvey]

Ours is really too big for an easement type set, 62 properties, single point od entry, several contractors running business from their property, and an exotic animal farm that does public tours.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

I have worked in Maryland for Baltimore Gas & Electric and they have service territory all the way out in farm country to the Mason Dixon line and in New Jersey for NJ Public Service Electric & Gas and couldn't get over how small the ROW's were with poles jammed right up against highway travel lanes, definitely not something that is common down here in the South.