Screw In Tire Studs

[Ironhand]

Check out Pro Gold ice screws. They are hardened unlike an sheetmetal screw and you'll see why we use them on the MX bikes on the ice. Very aggressive.

"PRO GOLD" ICE SCREWS

 

[Kernopelli]

Check out Pro Gold ice screws. They are hardened unlike an sheet metal screw and you'll see why we use them on the MX bikes on the ice. Very aggressive.

"PRO GOLD" ICE SCREWS

I agree with PILOON, sheet metal screws hold up extremely well, but I won't argue that purpose made ice screws are the best. FRP Gold pro ice screws from Fredette Racing Products I like Fredette Racing for three reasons; 1: Jeff Fredette is a good 'ol Illinois boy with 30 ISDE start/finishes..probably more than any other American in history. 2: He has dedicated his racing and development almost exclusively to Kawasaki's KDX's ( probably the most dependable and easily modified 2 stroke woods bike ever made. {Yes, we have a full Fredette modded one wearing a set of fresh tires/SM screws in the garage}.) 3: He sells the screws in smaller batches of 100 if you want to buy less.

 

[Mr. Ace]

I'm also considering screw-in studs rather than chains and would be interested in hearing from others that have tried them. For those that do have studs; will they damage concrete in your garage from pulling the tractor in/out?

 

[beenthere]

I'm also considering screw-in studs rather than chains and would be interested in hearing from others that have tried them. For those that do have studs; will they damage concrete in your garage from pulling the tractor in/out?

Depends on what you call damage, but they will sure eat away and mark the concrete. You will be able to tell from the marks each time. And if you spin the tires or turn the wheels, that much more chewing.

DHD
Have you tried the studs yet? If so, how do you like them?

 

[DHD]

Depends on what you call damage, but they will sure eat away and mark the concrete. You will be able to tell from the marks each time. And if you spin the tires or turn the wheels, that much more chewing.

DHD
Have you tried the studs yet? If so, how do you like them?

No tractor studs yet, the more I think about, the less I like the idea.
I just had a loader installed, so I've been experimenting.
The extra weight of the loader has helped out a little with my steering traction on ice.
For the next snow storm I was going to put 3 or 4 sand filled 5 gal. pails
(about 60 pounds each) in the loader bucket, to see if steering traction would improve even more.

I park my Kubota in the garage on a cement floor.
My 2 link rear tire chains don't do any damage to the cement, but I was concerned the
steering of the front tires on the cement with studs might cause damage.
I go thru some tight turn manuvers getting my Kubota in and out of the garage.
I already have deep stud scratches in my cement floor from the rear studded tires of a full sized rear wheel drive passenge van we use to have.
Because of that, I stopped putting studs in my car tires.

The studs in car tires are smaller in diameter than compared to the heads of sheet metal screws. So maybe, sheet metal screws would not damage cement on straight runs,
but with tight steering while moving I think damage would be more likely.
Also, I don't think it would be practicle to constantly install and unistall studs on a seasonal bases, and having an extra set of R4 tires and wheels for seasonal swaps is too costly (at least $500).

 

[jdgreg]

I cant help wonder about how difficult they will be to remove at the end of winter with the head worn down, especially the sheet metal screws. Also, with my luck, my wife would get a flat on her car by picking up a thrown screw, then I would be 'screwed'.

 

[Mr. Ace]

Thanks for the feedback about your experiences with studs on a concrete garage floor. Since I really don't want to tear up my floor, I'll probably start looking at chains instead, or just throw some protective plywood down. If I end up with studs, I'll report back with a review.

 

[DHD]

Thanks for the feedback about your experiences with studs on a concrete garage floor. Since I really don't want to tear up my floor, I'll probably start looking at chains instead, or just throw some protective plywood down. If I end up with studs, I'll report back with a review.

Have you read what other folks say about tire chain use on thier tractors ?

You'll find some folks use chains on all four tires, some just use chains on the back and some just use chains on the front.

I talk to a Kubota tech a few days ago, Kubota does not recommends chains on the front tires.

Did you see this thread yet ?
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/133645-stud-tires-3.html

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[Mr. Ace]

Yes, I have been checking out the old threads on chains; and the one you referenced is particularly good. There certainly is a lot to consider and understand when adding chains, or almost any other modification. If I do go with chains, I would probably add rear chains first and see how that goes, then add front chains if still needed. My snow removal is accomplished with a front blower, usually in the float position, without a FEL mounted, so I don't think I would have as much weight bearing down on the front components relative to those who have a FEL mounted. Another thing I learned from the old threads is to check for enough clearance to add chains.

How about airing down my tires a bit? Can I expect any worthwhile gain in snow traction to try that?

If anyone is interested, here is another choice for tire studs that I haven't seen mentioned yet >>> Grip Studs

 

[Ralph Copp]

Maxigrip Studs - I just installed them on the front of my LS 7010 and they seem to work well. None have came out so far this winter.

 

[PILOON]

With the deep threads on tractor tires a poor man's solution is self tapping metal screws like the kind that have a 7/16" hex head and a washer like shape under the head.
While not carbide they are hardened to the point of being 'drill bit hard' and wear quite well.
While great on ice, asphalt and concrete might not be as kind to them.

 

[don45640]

Hey! Those are neat! Expensive? My backhoe goes great in snow,but glare ice....not great. I'd like to try those. don-ohio ^)

 

[DennisTC35]

I've been using 1/4" hex head sheet metal screws in my boots and other shoes for several years now. The hex heads have a slot as well and I enlarge that slot on the corner edge of a grinder to V it out making pretty sharp edges that really grip the ice. I'm quite pleased with them on shoes that have thick soles! I install and remove to replace them with a vari-speed drill and 1/4" driver bit. I would think the same technique on a larger scale would work for tractor tires though I doubt they would last long, certainly not like carbide would.

Dennis Thornton

 

[don45640]

Hi,Dennis! I see your point.I just don't know,though, if a regular screw would stay in under thr force of a tire under tons of weight? Maybe it would,though. I'd hate to be dropping potential flat tires on the roads for unsuspecting motorists.LOL! don-ohio ^)

 

[chilibit]

Hi,Dennis! I see your point.I just don't know,though, if a regular screw would stay in under thr force of a tire under tons of weight? Maybe it would,though. I'd hate to be dropping potential flat tires on the roads for unsuspecting motorists.LOL! don-ohio ^)

I use the Maxi studs on the front of of a L5030 with a loader for weight. Never seen one come out. I use Aquilineｮ MPC chains on the rear for ice. We had ice yesterday and on paved road ice with steep slopes I won't even try with less. The front studs have been in for three years and they don't show wear. Nowhere near good chains, but a far sight better than rubber. Not much use in snow, but you can turn and pull on ice. Good compromise for me and they don't overstress the front drive train.

 

[don45640]

I'll check out those chains...thanks Chilibit! don-ohio

 

[delgra]

Howdy Ralph. Bob here originally from Sussex. I too considered those studs for my CK35 but balked at the price. I called my dealer to see if lag screws would also work......they do! I spent $20 on 200 1" lags and have just done the fronts thus far and there is a huge inprovement. No more 'crabbing' while pushing snow on icy base.
Have fun in the snow!!
Bob

 

[Don87]

Hi,Dennis! I see your point.I just don't know,though, if a regular screw would stay in under thr force of a tire under tons of weight? Maybe it would,though. I'd hate to be dropping potential flat tires on the roads for unsuspecting motorists.LOL! don-ohio ^)

Could always put up a pole barn, and start repairing/selling tires:laughing:

 

[don45640]

Heheh! Verrry funny! don-ohio ^)

 

[peiboy]

I am piling brush with a 988B, is there such a thing as studs that Big/Strong that will work for that that anyone knows of?
Thanks
Jordan