Safty Switch#@!!!

[dmiele]

Have a B3300SU 90 hrs, jumped off seat to unload some fire wood, tractor shut off will not turn over. Yes, I checked the PTO. I had this happen a few times, seems if I would play with the HST pedal back and forth until I hit the "SWEET " spot, then it would turn over, From yesterday until about an hour ago, nothing, tried to jump out the ( 4 wire) plug under the seat, nothing still.
Would like an info on this please, at my witts end and almost out of beer!!!!!

 

[herringchoker]

This is a not uncommon problem. Check out this thread - I posted 2 pictures at post # 12.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-owning-operating/153385-kubota-7800-wont-start.html

Good luck! :thumbsup:

 

[dmiele]

Thanks herringchocker, tried that this afternoon, nope. Guess I'll have to put a call into the "THE ORANGE HIGH $$$$ " folks. Geez, 90 hours!! I sold a 83 5100 that just started EVERY time winter or summer, just not enough machine for the property.

 

[ritschner]

Here is a post I made a while back. It is in reference to the wiring on the L series Kubotas and how the seat switch works. It may be the same on the B series. It may help.

To check the seat switch you will need a continuity tester. Unplug the seat switch from the wiring harness (there is a tab on the bottom that is hard to see, you may have to release the zip tie). There are three wires on the switch (black blue orange) that terminate in male pins in the connector. With the seat only all the way down there should be continuity between the black and orange wire only. With the seat only up there should be continuity between the black and blue wire only. Anything else and the switch is bad.

 

[David s Von Gieserbrechta]

Gee, my tractors have NO safety switches, I wonder why that is.:confused2: Oh yeah, might have had something to do with getting fed up with having to monkey around with them instead of doing work.

Fact of the matter is that, when I'm working, if I want the tractor to stop when I get off of it I'll turn the key and if I don't turn off the key it means that I want it to keep running. Simple when yuh think about it really. I for one don't need some Kubota safety engineer to do my thinking for me.

David

 

[grsthegreat]

Gee, my tractors have NO safety switches, I wonder why that is.:confused2: Oh yeah, might have had something to do with getting fed up with having to monkey around with them instead of doing work.

Fact of the matter is that, when I'm working, if I want the tractor to stop when I get off of it I'll turn the key and if I don't turn off the key it means that I want it to keep running. Simple when yuh think about it really. I for one don't need some Kubota safety engineer to do my thinking for me.

David

My new Kioti HST didnt have any safety switches under the seat from the factory. I found this very odd as im so use to them on my previous tractors.

The Kioti is a cab tractor and im wondering if other cab tractors and/or tractors with HST transmissions have a seat switch??? anyone know.

Im thinking that they might not be installed if there is a cab/HST, though i dont know why the difference.

 

[crazyal]

As bad as Kubota may be it's not as bad as my riding mower. It has as many )if not more) safety switches on it. It even has a special position the key needs to be in and a button you need to push if you want to mow in reverse. Imagine that, I want to mow as I back up. Needles to say the number of Darwin switches on that have been severely reduced. My kubota still has them all but I'm not sure if the PTO switch when the seat up is working correctly. I guess it's easier to add a dozen switches and not get sued, kind of sad though.

 

[5030]

Neither my M9 nor the 105 have any interlock except for the PTO (can't start with the PTP engaged. They both have an audible underseat alarm but it don't disable the start at all.

I suspect it's because they are ag tractors. I run both when out of the seat when using grain legs.

 

[k0ua]

My new Kioti HST didnt have any safety switches under the seat from the factory. I found this very odd as im so use to them on my previous tractors.

The Kioti is a cab tractor and im wondering if other cab tractors and/or tractors with HST transmissions have a seat switch??? anyone know.

Im thinking that they might not be installed if there is a cab/HST, though i dont know why the difference.

On a cab tractor you cannot fall off after a limb hits you in the face and get ground up by the rotary cutter.

James K0UA

 

[BobRip]

Gee, my tractors have NO safety switches, I wonder why that is.:confused2: Oh yeah, might have had something to do with getting fed up with having to monkey around with them instead of doing work.

Fact of the matter is that, when I'm working, if I want the tractor to stop when I get off of it I'll turn the key and if I don't turn off the key it means that I want it to keep running. Simple when yuh think about it really. I for one don't need some Kubota safety engineer to do my thinking for me.

David

I get tired of engineers being blamed for legal requirements. Blame your congressman. You can blame the engineer for it not being reliable though.

 

[5030]

On a cab tractor you cannot fall off after a limb hits you in the face and get ground up by the rotary cutter.

James K0UA

You could leave the door open and fall out........

I know how much a replacement door costs (for a Kubota Ultra Cab). I ripped one off a while ago.

 

[grsthegreat]

You could leave the door open and fall out........

I know how much a replacement door costs (for a Kubota Ultra Cab). I ripped one off a while ago.

Im just wondering if all HST tractors, even non cab units, have seat switches. Technically if you let off the pedal, it stops so why need the switch.

 

[k0ua]

Im just wondering if all HST tractors, even non cab units, have seat switches. Technically if you let off the pedal, it stops so why need the switch.

I think the idea is that if you fall off then lets say that tiller wont till you into the soil because the engine/PTO has stopped. Do most operators need all those safety switches? Of course not, do 1% of the operators need them? Yeah maybe.

James K0UA

 

[Elcid76]

I convinced myself to buy my tractor after reading about a young kid that I knew who died feeding hay. His "vintage" tractor rolled. That was enough, I decided to get rid of my early 60's vintage D17 and step up to something modern. My ROPS sometimes gets in the way, but it has never been down. My seatbelt is not always on, but I am getting better, and so far the seat switches are all still working. I learned something a few months ago when I knocked the speed switch off the Xmisson cutting a bush, I used to tip the seat up when I was not using the tractor to keep the seat "dry." I was having some trouble with the seat switch at the time so I took the seat apart. What I found was that my keeping the seat up actually drew water to the switch. I cleaned everything up and was amazed at how simple that switch was. Now I leave the seat down all the time and I have never had a problem again. All I can say is that the ONE time you will need the seat switch you will REALLY need it. I have hit a deer on a harley, had two emergency landings while flying, and actually had an automatic opener save me while learning to skydive. Proper use of safety devices improves your chances of comfortable evenings. It is your choice.
PS, there are basically NO safety devices on my OLD plane. Recognition of what can go long is a practiced routine IF you intend to be an old pilot. ALWAYS recognize what you can do to minimize risk. My favorite phrase as a jumpmaster was that "..God thru you back..." When my "time" comes it will come, but safety devices are things that we use to reduce the "pain" from events when we are not "keepers.."
Check out this site and do what you will with what you know:
NIOSH Fatality Assessment and Control Evaluation(FACE)Program: Main page | CDC/NIOSH

 

[ritschner]

Im just wondering if all HST tractors, even non cab units, have seat switches. Technically if you let off the pedal, it stops so why need the switch.

Cause on an HST instead of just runnin over you, it will stop with the mower on top of you and keep on chomp'in. Sort of like a bull in a rodeo.:laughing:

 

[hr3]

My HST has the seat switch and a pto switch..But like you say it stops pritty fast just by letting off on the HST peddle.. I'v never had a lick of trouble with any of them..

 

[grsthegreat]

I have a hst range safety switch (for neutral) and a pto switch only. I DONT miss the seat switch at all

 

[SPYDERLK]

Disconnect so you can work efficiently
larry.

 

[David M]

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!

Gee, my tractors have NO safety switches, I wonder why that is.:confused2: Oh yeah, might have had something to do with getting fed up with having to monkey around with them instead of doing work.

Fact of the matter is that, when I'm working, if I want the tractor to stop when I get off of it I'll turn the key and if I don't turn off the key it means that I want it to keep running. Simple when yuh think about it really. I for one don't need some Kubota safety engineer to do my thinking for me.

David

 

[SPYDERLK]

I convinced myself to buy my tractor after reading about a young kid that I knew who died feeding hay. His "vintage" tractor rolled. That was enough, I decided to get rid of my early 60's vintage D17 and step up to something modern. My ROPS sometimes gets in the way, but it has never been down. My seatbelt is not always on, but I am getting better, and so far the seat switches are all still working. I learned something a few months ago when I knocked the speed switch off the Xmisson cutting a bush, I used to tip the seat up when I was not using the tractor to keep the seat "dry." I was having some trouble with the seat switch at the time so I took the seat apart. What I found was that my keeping the seat up actually drew water to the switch. I cleaned everything up and was amazed at how simple that switch was. Now I leave the seat down all the time and I have never had a problem again. All I can say is that the ONE time you will need the seat switch you will REALLY need it. I have hit a deer on a harley, had two emergency landings while flying, and actually had an automatic opener save me while learning to skydive. Proper use of safety devices improves your chances of comfortable evenings. It is your choice.
PS, there are basically NO safety devices on my OLD plane. Recognition of what can go long is a practiced routine IF you intend to be an old pilot. ALWAYS recognize what you can do to minimize risk. My favorite phrase as a jumpmaster was that "..God thru you back..." When my "time" comes it will come, but safety devices are things that we use to reduce the "pain" from events when we are not "keepers.."
Check out this site and do what you will with what you know:
NIOSH Fatality Assessment and Control Evaluation(FACE)Program: Main page | CDC/NIOSH

With just a little extra $ engineers could make safety "switches" virtually transparent to the user. Until that happens I will disconnect the annoying ones.
larry