RX7320 3rd Function
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OzKioti
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I've had my RX8030 (power shuttle with cab and factory-fitted loader) for only a couple of weeks now, and this is the first time I've used a 4-in-1. I'm curious though regarding the single button on mine, vs the two buttons I've seen on others here.
Am I right in thinking mine is a "diverter" function? ie - I can use open & close OR curl & dump, but not simultaneously, as opposed to a fully fledged operation where all six functions can be used simultaneously?
I'm also thinking (twice in one day - something of a record!
) that the Australian/NZ RX8030 is an RX7320 with different emission protocols. 76hp vs 73hp.
For info, the hydraulic hose setup near the base of the loader tower looks like this on mine - well clear of the front wheel:
and on the loader:
And my dealer offered me a word of caution - after lowering the front grill guard, to access the air cleaner or blow out the radiators for example, after closing the bonnet (hood?) DON'T FORGET TO LIFT UP THE GUARD AND RE-PIN IT! He said it's easy to forget, and next time you use the loader, you could wipe it out. And not to ask him how he knew!!!!! :laughing:
Am I right in thinking mine is a "diverter" function? ie - I can use open & close OR curl & dump, but not simultaneously, as opposed to a fully fledged operation where all six functions can be used simultaneously?
I'm also thinking (twice in one day - something of a record!
) that the Australian/NZ RX8030 is an RX7320 with different emission protocols. 76hp vs 73hp.For info, the hydraulic hose setup near the base of the loader tower looks like this on mine - well clear of the front wheel:
and on the loader:
And my dealer offered me a word of caution - after lowering the front grill guard, to access the air cleaner or blow out the radiators for example, after closing the bonnet (hood?) DON'T FORGET TO LIFT UP THE GUARD AND RE-PIN IT! He said it's easy to forget, and next time you use the loader, you could wipe it out. And not to ask him how he knew!!!!! :laughing:
ishiboo
Platinum Member
Yup, thatç—´ a diverter valve vs a 3rd function.
And I壇 guess youæ±*e right about it being the same tractor. The NX4510, NX5010, NX5510 and NX6010 all have the same engine - just a different tune for 45, 50, 55 and 60hp. And I believe very few if any other changes except tire size.
And I壇 guess youæ±*e right about it being the same tractor. The NX4510, NX5010, NX5510 and NX6010 all have the same engine - just a different tune for 45, 50, 55 and 60hp. And I believe very few if any other changes except tire size.
OzKioti
Silver Member
Tyres on the RX8030 are radials here. 280/85R24 fronts, and 420/85R30 rears.
MinnesotaEric
Super Member
I've had my RX8030 (power shuttle with cab and factory-fitted loader) for only a couple of weeks now, and this is the first time I've used a 4-in-1. I'm curious though regarding the single button on mine, vs the two buttons I've seen on others here.
Am I right in thinking mine is a "diverter" function? ie - I can use open & close OR curl & dump, but not simultaneously, as opposed to a fully fledged operation where all six functions can be used simultaneously?
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I'm also thinking (twice in one day - something of a record!
For info, the hydraulic hose setup near the base of the loader tower looks like this on mine - well clear of the front wheel:
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and on the loader:
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And my dealer offered me a word of caution - after lowering the front grill guard, to access the air cleaner or blow out the radiators for example, after closing the bonnet (hood?) DON'T FORGET TO LIFT UP THE GUARD AND RE-PIN IT! He said it's easy to forget, and next time you use the loader, you could wipe it out. And not to ask him how he knew!!!!! :laughing:
In order to use multiple functions AT THE SAME TIME, the joystick valve must be piloted, and ours are not. You can feather the joystick a bit, but under load it is pretty much one function at a time. With two buttons on the electric over hydraulic diverter valve, effectively, whatever ram has the LEAST RESISTANCE will receive the fluid. Again you can sort of feather things, but under a load, it is pretty much one function at a time. That said, I really like the home-made setup I made as it looks like the third function the factory should have provided with hardlines, custom-fitted hoses, matching hardware, et cetra, but never did.
OzKioti
Silver Member
I really like that too - nice job!
JimR
Elite Member
In order to use multiple functions AT THE SAME TIME, the joystick valve must be piloted, and ours are not. You can feather the joystick a bit, but under load it is pretty much one function at a time. With two buttons on the electric over hydraulic diverter valve, effectively, whatever ram has the LEAST RESISTANCE will receive the fluid. Again you can sort of feather things, but under a load, it is pretty much one function at a time. That said, I really like the home-made setup I made as it looks like the third function the factory should have provided with hardlines, custom-fitted hoses, matching hardware, et cetra, but never did.
Very nice job Eric. I cheated on my 3rd function. I rarely use it so I just added hoses to plug into my rear remotes. I have added a bracket at the loader disconnects for the front hoses. A simple job to do and a lot less money. Kioti wanted $1250 for the kit and $1500 installed.
MinnesotaEric
Super Member
The more tractors I jump in and use, the more I really like my solution--especially since my tractor is primarily used with with a grapple and in winter a snow plow--all easy work for the tractor. The only thing that would make it better is a piloted joystick valve.
Where does the new valve get it pressure line from? Is it fed straight from the gear pump?
Thanks.
woolyAcres
Platinum Member
I'm revisiting the idea of 3rd function; been using hoses from the rear-remotes for the last year and now with a bale clamp I'm finding that I could be more efficient if I had all controls on the joystick instead of having to move my hand.
cutthroat, I was looking again on your pictures and it looks like part of your setup is attached right to the loader frame on the tractor, that big 1" thick steel plate. Do I have that right? I'm likely to order the kit and install it myself but I'm not sure I want (or have a good way) to drill holes like that. I wonder if the WR Long kit might mount differently. Can you confirm if holes had to be drilled into that frame? Thanks.
How's the machine working out for you?
Teachu2
Platinum Member
I went a completely different way. See post #4 at Greetings and Kioti loader valve issue.. Mine's only 34hp, but the joystick would handle much more.
mattdewalt
New member
I just got done installing the 3rd function valve on my RX7320. Only thing I can't figure out is what the 2 shorter hoses that run from the solenoid to the back of the tractor attach to. They show me a sketch in the directions, but I can find anything that looks like that on my tractor. Looks like I need to remove some plugs and attach the hoses with banjo bolts. I have a cab model. Can anyone take a picture for me? Thanks.
ishiboo
Platinum Member
I can get pictures off my tractor tomorrow.
panampefa
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heIn order to use multiple functions AT THE SAME TIME, the joystick valve must be piloted, and ours are not. You can feather the joystick a bit, but under load it is pretty much one function at a time. With two buttons on the electric over hydraulic diverter valve, effectively, whatever ram has the LEAST RESISTANCE will receive the fluid. Again you can sort of feather things, but under a load, it is pretty much one function at a time. That said, I really like the home-made setup I made as it looks like the third function the factory should have provided with hardlines, custom-fitted hoses, matching hardware, et cetra, but never did.
MinnesotaEric..In order to use multiple functions AT THE SAME TIME, the joystick valve must be piloted, and ours are not. You can feather the joystick a bit, but under load it is pretty much one function at a time. With two buttons on the electric over hydraulic diverter valve, effectively, whatever ram has the LEAST RESISTANCE will receive the fluid. Again you can sort of feather things, but under a load, it is pretty much one function at a time. That said, I really like the home-made setup I made as it looks like the third function the factory should have provided with hardlines, custom-fitted hoses, matching hardware, et cetra, but never did.
Can you provide the source you used for your additional hard lines and the brackets (green and black in the image) you used in this tweek?
MinnesotaEric
Super Member
I had my local hydraulic hose jobber make my hoses to my specs.
KKenser
New member
I'm installing the 3rd function on my RX7320 cab model right now. Did you find the answer? I can't find anything that looks like the diagram they provided or where I'm supposed to hook up the two hoses.
MinnesotaEric
Super Member
Tap into the power beyond, through your D03 plate (for your tractor), use a D03 open center two-way electric over hydraulic spool valve. A and B to your lines running out to the end of the loader for your third function, and plumb the T into tank. Basically, from the power beyond's tank line, you cut into that and insert your open-center base plate.
P = Hydraulic power that first comes into your joystick valve, and then out to T (that's the line you tap into).
On the correct D03 base plate (open center) you have P, T, A and B
A and B are for your double-acting third function
T to tank
You will need a hose jobber to make the hoses for you since you're removing or tapping into your existing tank line.
If you show the following diagram I drew to any hydraulic shop they will see what you want to do. I'm pretty sure a seven-series tractor takes a D03 base plate and solenoid because of the flow rate of your hydraulic pump.
KKenser
New member
Thank you. I figured it out. I had to remove a small hydraulic pipe that went to the rear remotes and replace with the hydraulic lines that came with the kit.Tap into the power beyond, through your D03 plate (for your tractor), use a D03 open center two-way electric over hydraulic spool valve. A and B to your lines running out to the end of the loader for your third function, and plumb the T into tank. Basically, from the power beyond's tank line, you cut into that and insert your open-center base plate.
P = Hydraulic power that first comes into your joystick valve, and then out to T (that's the line you tap into).
On the correct D03 base plate (open center) you have P, T, A and B
A and B are for your double-acting third function
T to tank
You will need a hose jobber to make the hoses for you since you're removing or tapping into your existing tank line.
If you show the following diagram I drew to any hydraulic shop they will see what you want to do. I'm pretty sure a seven-series tractor takes a D03 base plate and solenoid because of the flow rate of your hydraulic pump.
panampefa
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cutthroat...regarding the 3rd function on your Kioti 7320 ... can you confirm the kit number?
Is it a RXA111?
Is it a RXA111?
I don't know the part number. I had my dealer install it and I don't have my 7320 anymore so can't look. That part number on other websites look correct from what I am seeing and what was installed on mine. In the pictures though I am not seeing the couplers that went on the loader nor the lines (can't recall if hard or soft lines). So those might be an additional piece needed.
