Rustoleum implement paint mix ratio?

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I picked up a quart of Rustoleum implement paint today and some paint thinner. The can has no directions on it.
I saw a youtube video where the guy did five parts paint, two parts acetone and .33 part hardener.
I have never heard of using acetone for a thinner.
What say you all?
Thanks
 
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Never used hardener.

Rustoleum is formulated differently than most paints (acetone thinner, etc.). Hardener might or might not work. I would definitely do a small test first.

A web search might find something about Rustoleum hardener.

Bruce
 
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I checked - "Rustoleum hardeners" and there are several recommended. The hardener type depends upon the Rustoleum being used.
 
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I thin Rustoleum with acetone all the time and have for 15 years. You need to thin more than you think. I spray a light coat outside on a warm day and then a few minutes later a slightly heavier coat. Works fine. I never use hardener because of the risks of lung damage. Lots of threads on that.
 
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My experience is that Rustoleum works pretty well without a hardener, but be careful for the first month or so. It gets really hard and durable but cures very slowly.
 
   / Rustoleum implement paint mix ratio? #8  
Prefect timing on this thread. I have a 15 year old rotary cutter that is mechanically sound but could use a paint job. Thanks!
 
   / Rustoleum implement paint mix ratio? #9  
Can't say enough good about Rustoleum paints, I've used them for around 30 years. I thin with mineral spirits not quite half and half for great results.

The stuff takes a long time to dry but the longevity is excellent. You'll notice once cured the paint is impervious to gas and oil also.

Best of luck, Fred
 
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Well I sprayed the top today. Overall it went OK. I thinned it according to their website to about 15% and then I added about a third of an ounce of hardener. I made 10 oz of paint at a time. It's not a real glossy finish, I couldn't seem to get a wet look. I don't know if it was today's weather or what.
I sprayed my winch with the Magic paint a month or so back and had no trouble getting that glossy.
Maybe the acetone? and the weather?
It almost looks like a matte finish.
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mineral spirits cut half and half let cure 12 hrs and add another coat. You can do this as many times as you want . A little wet sand between coats will get you a glossy finish and cut down on orange peal . Thin coats is the key
 
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I have sprayed a lot of Rustoleum and have found that thinning with xylene works the best for large sections and panels, it drys a bit slower than acetone but much faster than mineral spirits. If you want a glossy finish thin as little as possible, I usually thin about 20% max.
 
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I just sprayed my metal barn roof using Rustoleum Hunter/Forrest Green and used a little less Acetone than recommended. As long as it sprayed well I was happy, and it turned out great with one coat.
 
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Well I sprayed the top today. Overall it went OK. I thinned it according to their website to about 15% and then I added about a third of an ounce of hardener. I made 10 oz of paint at a time. It's not a real glossy finish, I couldn't seem to get a wet look. I don't know if it was today's weather or what.

Did you wait the FULL amount of time required by the hardener to activate??
The wait is a killer, I know, you are ready to paint, and you have to sit around waiting for 30 minutes,,,

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The second pic is Majic paint,,

The activated hardener will greatly enhance the gloss,,,
 
   / Rustoleum implement paint mix ratio? #15  
Well I sprayed the top today. Overall it went OK. I thinned it according to their website to about 15% and then I added about a third of an ounce of hardener. I made 10 oz of paint at a time. It's not a real glossy finish, I couldn't seem to get a wet look. I don't know if it was today's weather or what.
I sprayed my winch with the Magic paint a month or so back and had no trouble getting that glossy.
Maybe the acetone? and the weather?
It almost looks like a matte finish.
MF0Ai4hl.jpg


I spray a lot of Rustoleum and that's what not enough thinner looks like. Paint is too thick. You have to add more thinner than you think. That's what works for me and your mileage may vary. Maybe try some sample panels.
 
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Well I guess I will have to live with it the way it is. Next time I'll know to thin it more. Thanks all.
David
 
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Well I guess I will have to live with it the way it is. Next time I'll know to thin it more. Thanks all.
David

If that were me I would just mix more and spray over that. I've done it before. What does everyone else think?
 
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If that were me I would just mix more and spray over that. I've done it before. What does everyone else think?

I may just do that. I have some and I can thin it more. I'll keep ya posted.
 
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An old painters trick was to spray thinner over the last coat B4 it totally hardened.
I tried it and yes it works as often if the paint was rather fumed or oversprayed.
It kind of dissolves the partially dried fumed paint and flows it to a glossy finish.
Not the perfect method but one way of saving a finish.
 
   / Rustoleum implement paint mix ratio? #20  
As stated, Xylene is a good reducer for industrial enamel, (Rustoleum).

Just about anything will work to thin industrial enamel. But, you can lose gloss, if you use a lot of reducer, and or, pile on the coats.

Industrial enamel is the cheapest paint you can buy, they use very low quality solvents. It takes a long time for those solvents to evaporate. Paint doesn't "cure", (reach full hardness), until all the solvents are out of it. Putting your stuff out in the sun will help greatly, as the heat will help drive out those solvents.

Adding the correct amount of hardener, can help speed up the process. Keep in mind, more is not better. Adding too much hardener, will cause problems.

I suggest thinning as little as necessary to get the paint to spray nicely, with your equipment. This is almost always a good rule of thumb with any paint.

Secondly, allow each coat to "flash", (dry until it starts to get tacky), so as not to trap excessive of solvents in the film. Piling on the paint, will usually cause solvents to get trapped, loss of gloss, and slow down curing.

Apply enough paint, but more than two or three good coats, can cause trapped solvents. Excessive film build is also not better.

Use the proper protective equipment. Including, at minimum a charcoal filter respirator, when spraying industrial enamel. Disposable respirators only sell for around $25. And, if kept in an air tight container, will last about 40 hours of use.
 

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