Rounded off drain plug

[airbiscuit]

A little fiber was added to the oil crankcase so we should see movement pretty soon......


(sorry that was just too easy.....heh)

 

[sixdogs]

I didn't. Replaced the rim.

Did you find a power adjust rim?

 

[Jstpssng]

there's another method, spray liquid nitrogen Liquid Nitrogen Spray: Amazon.com on the plug only, that will make the plug shrink, and it may be removable then. being you only have 1.5" clearance to work, if this method don't work, be prepared to have to remove the transmission, you might have to just drill it out dead center, with the proper size drill for the tap, then tap it.. sometimes I drill a hole fairly close to the tap size, then cut very carefully with a reciprocating saw near the threads making 4 cuts, then, use a hammer and punch to knock those 4 sections toward the center, then they can be removed with needle nose pliers..

Before he removes the transmission, it would probably be easier to remove the crossmember and modify it so that it can be bolted back on.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I didn't. Replaced the rim.

I may wind up doing that on the 3600 Ford but since the rears are still more or less holding air and water I am going to keep running with rims with OVERSIZE valve stem holes hoping to find a used set of quick spreads like on our 3000 came with.

 

[goeduck]

A little fiber was added to the oil crankcase so we should see movement pretty soon......


(sorry that was just too easy.....heh)

Dang, it took us 301 posts to figure out the answer. Fiber, who would have thunk it? :thumbsup:

 

[tjkubota93]

there's another method, spray liquid nitrogen Liquid Nitrogen Spray: Amazon.com on the plug only, that will make the plug shrink, and it may be removable then. being you only have 1.5" clearance to work, if this method don't work, be prepared to have to remove the transmission, you might have to just drill it out dead center, with the proper size drill for the tap, then tap it.. sometimes I drill a hole fairly close to the tap size, then cut very carefully with a reciprocating saw near the threads making 4 cuts, then, use a hammer and punch to knock those 4 sections toward the center, then they can be removed with needle nose pliers..

An old timer that was shop foreman at the dealer I worked for 14 years ago once did something similar with a jug of r12 turned upside down squirting a stuck drainplug. It worked. I guess he was lucky the epa was not out that day.....

 

[radios1]

An old timer that was shop foreman at the dealer I worked for 14 years ago once did something similar with a jug of r12 turned upside down squirting a stuck drainplug. It worked. I guess he was lucky the epa was not out that day.....

it may have been legal at the time.. you used to be able to buy any refrigerant, and do what ever you wanted with it, since the cause of ozone depletion was unknown.. anyway, nitrogen is totally safe for the ozone, and it gets MUCH colder than any Freon could..

 

[goeduck]

it may have been legal at the time.. you used to be able to buy any refrigerant, and do what ever you wanted with it, since the cause of ozone depletion was unknown.. anyway, nitrogen is totally safe for the ozone, and it gets MUCH colder than any Freon could..

Will the metal be more likely to fracture when it is that cold? Or let it stabilize afterwards?

 

[ddbackhoe]

Will the metal be more likely to fracture when it is that cold? Or let it stabilize afterwards?

You may have heard of shrink fitting or compression shrink fitting. Basically, one part is super heated (thermal expansion) and the other is super cooled (thermal contraction)before assembly so that when the parts are returned to room temperature it is a solid fit. Gears to shafts, races/bushings to bores, etc. This method would be a variation by trying to freeze (shrink) the plug and make it easier to remove. The plug would be removed while "frozen". Fracture isn't likely unless you're using liquid nitrogen, but caution and safe practices are often a good thing. Very doubtful this would be a successful approach for this project because there is no way to limit the freeze zone solely to the plug.

Sometimes hold my beer and watch this pays off, sometimes just drinking your beer and watching someone else pays off better.

 

[DLTTrekkers]

All he needs to do is stopping his wrench from slipping down and of the plug . There is a crossmember to block the wrench from slipping down .

 

[pmsmechanic]

I think all it needs is to grab the plug by the threads with a good pipe wrench and it will come out.....but lets see how many pages we can get out of this first!

 

[countrybumpkin]

Any updates??

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Yes, square head.

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Here's the current state of the plug. That bar should be removable, bolt on each end. The loader mounts to the frame on the front under the engine and to axle on the rear, just a support bar I suppose. Johnkn, I've tried those extractors as well, although the one I tried was the one that fit in it's current state. Once I remove the bar I'll look into using the next size down, 1/2". Bolt head would normally be 9/16"

Lisle Corporation

With the bar removed would this tool be an option perhaps?

I have seen it used on tight studs that had not be removed in over 50 years with success.

 

[radios1]

I think all it needs is to grab the plug by the threads with a good pipe wrench and it will come out.....but lets see how many pages we can get out of this first!

I can't imagine why that didn't work, as a test, in a vise, I was able to snap a 1/2 bolt off with a 4 foot pipe wrench.. so... anyway, a drain plug just needs to be made snug, making it this tight is just not right, and not needed.. a bit of Teflon tape, or pipe dope could have been used if he had a leak.. or just spend a buck for a new pipe plug!..

 

[Gem99ultra]

Lisle Corporation

With the bar removed would this tool be an option perhaps?

I have seen it used on tight studs that had not be removed in over 50 years with success.

I'll attest to that. I've used this tool to remove head bolt and manifold studs - for as far back as 50 years!

 

[YLee Kioti]

Hey fellas is this the post that'll take up to the 6 millionth post?
Do I get a free toaster?:laughing:

 

[deranged]

Just leaving this here for reference

 

[D2Cat]

It's all entertaining except to the OP who has to actually solve the problem. Dealing with a steel plug in an alum pan with only a couple inches of clearance because of loader mount hardware.

 

[deranged]

It's all entertaining except to the OP who has to actually solve the problem. Dealing with a steel plug in an alum pan with only a couple inches of clearance because of loader mount hardware.

Then if it is so stuck and inaccessible, would it not be better to drill and tap a new plug?

 

[sixdogs]

I have faith in Kando and this this will be successfully resolved. He seems capable but just a little more deliberate than most of us. I'm going with happy ending on this and one day it will be posted as resolved.