Rounded off drain plug

   / Rounded off drain plug #901  
Penetrating oil doesn't work well on pipe threads.

Pipe threads seal air, and solvents such as acetone., And gases such as helium and hydrogen. On a molecular level it don't get much smaller. Penetrating oil isn't magic.

Best things to do for pipe, is heat the PLUG, and apply was and watch it wick in.

But as said....stuck really isn't the problem. Its probably just torqued to a nominal level. Gripping the plug to apply that torque is the issue, and penetrating oil is not the answer

I don't think anyone KNOWS what the problem IS. It most certainly IS stuck. If it weren't then it would have been removed: stuck means that something is resisting extraction energies.

I'll agree that penetrating fluid isn't THE "answer," but I don't think it's necessarily a waste to apply it in conjunction with other modes of attack.
 
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#902  
..... Thank God this is a transmission drain so we won't get into much of a debate about oil.

TSC travellers/cam2 promax/wally supertech and GO!:D

Weather lately hasn't been cooperative to making me feel up to doing anything. Alternated rain and snow 4 times in an hour yesterday morning haha
 
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#903  
I don't think anyone KNOWS what the problem IS. It most certainly IS stuck. If it weren't then it would have been removed: stuck means that something is resisting extraction energies.

I'll agree that penetrating fluid isn't THE "answer," but I don't think it's necessarily a waste to apply it in conjunction with other modes of attack.

Posted it near the beginning, plug was over tightened. Potential issue with the threads themselves but without the plug out, no way to really tell.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #904  
I got a pipe plug out.

My 12 inch Knipex Cobra pliers were delivered today, so I tried them on a pipe plug.

They reached right in, locked on the threads and got it out :thumbsup::

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   / Rounded off drain plug #905  
^^^^^^
Not for another 103 posts.

We might need more than that, have we even discussed what happens at the molecular level during thread galling yet? I am not recalling it. Maybe someone can enlighten us.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #906  
I am waiting, with abated breath, for the Rube Goldberg Machine method of removing the rounded off drain plug.

(Difficulty: No [quality] pipe-wrench)

OK, here it goes.
Weld that drain plug to a mass of steel (like to the local rail road tracks) and rotate the tractor.
That should do it!
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #907  
Got mine today. no chance to try them on any drain plugs though. too dang cold. You gotta wonder how many of these pliers got sold by this thread. Maybe that was the idea all along. :)
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #908  
I put a set of Knipex in my cart on Amazon.. then removed them.. already spend too much on Amazon so will wait for another day.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #910  
Wow, 900! As we approach the 1000 post threshold, Kando needs to get that sucker removed. Once he gets it out we can focus our efforts on replacing the plug. Should he use Teflon tape? Old school pipe dope? New tech thread sealer? Go commando and gamble on the metal sealing things? Speaking of metal, should he use a brass or steel plug? Once that's decided, should it be a standard pipe plug like he's removing, or go with a concave plug? Square, hex, or other drive? We have so much advice to offer once he gets that plug out. Thank God this is a transmission drain so we won't get into much of a debate about oil.

What type of wrench should Kando use ..... to put the new plug in?
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #912  
What type of wrench should Kando use ..... to put the new plug in?

An open end wrench or a good adjustable wrench. If he had either to start with this thread probably wouldn’t exist.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #913  
Kando,

Did I miss the pic of your new tractor?
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #914  
An open end wrench or a good adjustable wrench. If he had either to start with this thread probably wouldn’t exist.

Mine was a tongue-in-cheek comment about what type wrench to use for plug replacement.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #916  
TSC travellers/cam2 promax/wally supertech and GO!:D

Weather lately hasn't been cooperative to making me feel up to doing anything. Alternated rain and snow 4 times in an hour yesterday morning haha

Hard to beat the price of TSC when its on sale. For my stuff, I switched over to all Amsoil products a few years ago.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #918  
It's penetrating "fluid." Different than "oil." Thinner and more able to penetrate where regular oil cannot. So, yes, penetrating fluid CAN make a difference.

The "sticking" isn't likely so much "rust" as it is from metal galling. No matter, there will be microscopic spaces, and very thin fluids work very well in being able to get in such spaces. Applying heat and then the fluid will help facilitate the drawing in of the fluid.

Have you tried Kroil instead of PB blaster, etc.? Kroil is one of my first go to items for stuck stuff
Penetrating-Lubricating Oils
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #919  
Have you tried Kroil instead of PB blaster, etc.? Kroil is one of my first go to items for stuck stuff
Penetrating-Lubricating Oils

I put some Kroil on a part that was hopelessly rusted stuck but it wouldn't budge so l forgot about it. On a lark l checked a month later and it came apart easily. So, even when Kroil won't work, it's still working.
 
   / Rounded off drain plug #920  
I put some Kroil on a part that was hopelessly rusted stuck but it wouldn't budge so l forgot about it. On a lark l checked a month later and it came apart easily. So, even when Kroil won't work, it's still working.
Kroil is creepy like that.
 

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